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| Author: | gafmo [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:35 pm ] |
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Someone sent this pic to my mobile. I have no idea who it was but it was titled Extra passinger for hanging rock tomorrow I'm getting close to getting the Van on the road and I need an additional seat for the back of Marcia for my little Man Owen 4 years going on 10. Now I know Aaron had one and sold it to someone with a Moke, now I see it in a Van8) Can I just bolt a Seat to the rear floor with spacer plates underneath or should I go for something like this 
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:07 pm ] |
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Take the van to Little's in Blacktown and get a proper frame made, like Aaron did. This way, it is engineered legal. 
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| Author: | 74snail [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:10 pm ] |
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Any seat mounts have to be ADR compliant , if you replicate the seats mounts and seat from a Traveller it could be made road legal as there would be precedent for the fitting http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1166888 ... 6431vkZlyj 
remember children are not cargo, you can't just strap them in and say that looks safe enough . |
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| Author: | gafmo [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:30 pm ] |
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drmini in aust wrote: Take the van to Little's in Blacktown and get a proper frame made, like Aaron did. This way, it is engineered legal.
Inwhich is the reason I ask this question. Sue's Daily was fitted by Littles for Owen when he was a little one and would not look else where. But this frame as per the pic I got today looks exactly the same. but was wandering what option their here. My focus was more of the angle that the base is at rather that flat on the floor as per normal car seats are 9well a slight angle if you musrt) |
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| Author: | bnicho [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:16 pm ] |
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Aaron sold me that frame and I mounted it in my Moke for a year and a half or so. It is Little's built. I sold it to another guy with a Moke who then sold it to Poeee. I believe that pic may be from Poeee! This unit is LEGAL in Victoria because it is designed to take a child under 26kg, it was professionally built and has tags to prove it meets the ADR's. VicRoads do not require an engineers certificate for it. I could find the relevant VicRoads page, but I'm too lazy right now. Cheers, |
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| Author: | Angusdog [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:16 pm ] |
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74snail wrote: Any seat mounts have to be ADR compliant , if you replicate the seats mounts and seat from a Traveller it could be made road legal as there would be precedent for the fitting
The seat mounts in a traveller are pitifully weak and serve only to show how far we've come. I looked into seat belts for our Clubman Estate and there's nothing strong enough to fit them to, short of welding in a bar right across (not an option for us as we need the load space) or as in the photos, fabricating a frame which bolts into the floor. My wife met a woman who said her mother used to regularly carry seven kids rolling around in a Clubman Estate. I guess they lived to tell the tale. Nowadays our kids ask whose car's has the most airbags... |
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| Author: | gafmo [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:35 pm ] |
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Hmmm why would Poee need a baby seat in the Back...maybe it should have been put in the drivers side |
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| Author: | MiniKit [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:42 pm ] |
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Ahhh the good old days.... Our old Clubman Van saw everything from five kids to a RM80 with the front wheel hanging out the parted back doors to a Calf. But usually it just had a couple of dogs and me bouncing around in the back on the way home from school. |
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| Author: | blueminivan [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:15 pm ] |
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Yeah, as bincho said, that's in Poeees van. Saw it today at Hanging Rock. What I've gathered from reading the VicRoads info is that as long as the seat/mount is properly engineered or taken from another vehicle and is only used for kids weighing less then 26 or so kg you don't even need to take it to VicRoads for checking. They only suggest you get an engineer to look over the way it is mounted. It maybe differant story in NSW though. I've got my eye on an old 4WD dickie seat at the local second hand joint. Mmm. No. 2 son might be happier soon. 
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| Author: | bnicho [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:52 pm ] |
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There has got to be a way of fitting safe lap-sash retractable seatbelts to the rear of a Traveller. Surely running a strengthening member along above the side windows and mounting a drop link from that like some modern wagons (Subaru and Camry come to mind) would work. I intend to run that by an engineer or two when I get serious about the Traveller project. Cheers, |
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| Author: | awdmoke [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:19 am ] |
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You mean like this? 
from this for sale thread: http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=407470&lastpost=1 |
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| Author: | poeee [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:03 am ] |
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Yer that's my pano. It's mounted in four points to the floor with 100x100x10mm spreader plates underneath. That thing is so solid, and with Thomas all clipped in with the harness (clips to the frame, which also has a lap belt), has got to be at least twice as safe as us in the front! Not to mention more sturdy than the same child seat in any other car. |
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| Author: | gafmo [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:46 pm ] |
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Well the Van will be Registed in the next week or so which after I will want the extra seat in the back for Owen. once again can I bolt a seat in the back with spreader plated under the floor and also the belts |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:12 pm ] |
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Like I said before I would go see Little's, or another local place in Powers Rd, I will PM you. Do it legal, it's not worth the risk. |
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| Author: | gafmo [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:49 pm ] |
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Okay Doc |
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