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Author:  mini is my ride [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  power
um yeah not sure what to call it or put it

Was watching tv and the had a Honda civic 170 000 on the clock
they tuned the engine put turbo on it and it beat almost everything
in a drag/quarter mile race eg. skylines, BMW M5 etc

So lets say we take that engine from Honda civic and put it
in a classic mini? The Honda motor of duno (think thats what it called)
did 300hp wheels I am pretty sure

Is that the same if you put a starlet engine in a mini?

anyone want to talk about this?

I am interested not that I have the money to do this but
300hp in a mini :shock:
Author:  minsta [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  vtec
Hiya,

Z-cars do this sort of stuff in the UK all the time.

Either Honda VTECs, or bike engine cars, can easily do 0-100 in 4 seconds.

So expect the best to be able to do sub 12 second quarters.

Quick, expensive, and as far as I know, not legal here.

cheers! jon
Author:  mini is my ride [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:51 pm ]
Post subject: 
i just found

http://www.zcars.org.uk/mini/volvo.htm

2L volvo
Author:  blue_deluxe [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:29 pm ]
Post subject: 
As always there is a compromise. Youve got to remember that the wheelbase is very short compared to even a civic, let alone a skyline or 200sx.

So while 300bhp might sound like a lot of fun, most of the time it would be actively trying its hardest to kill you.

With a rear engined car somewhere around 200 hp and even weight distribution would be very nice, and about 150 for a front wheel drive with as much weight at the front as you can get. After that it gets dicey.

But this is just the observations i have made and talking to drivers and reading forums. (until i finish my starlet mini :twisted: )
Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:01 am ]
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I have ridden in a starlet Mini with 200HP ATW, it is deadly in the wet and changes lanes under power in the dry.
Too much mumbo, IMO. 150ATW would be heaps for street use. :lol:
Author:  wallygog [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:59 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
it is deadly in the wet and changes lanes under power in the dry.

perhaps a look into scrub radius would help.
Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:09 am ]
Post subject: 
wallygog wrote:
Quote:
it is deadly in the wet and changes lanes under power in the dry.

perhaps a look into scrub radius would help.

Perhaps some rigidity in the RH castor bar front mounting would help. This all gets seriously cut about when fitting a Starlet motor, and the mounting lug usually hangs off a flimsy vertical bit of RHS tube. Not good.... the engineers should pay this some serious attention IMO.
Author:  wallygog [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:11 am ]
Post subject: 
everything needs beefing up but most of the problems i see come from huge 13 x 7 wheels with massive offsets.
Author:  blue_deluxe [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:39 am ]
Post subject: 
Have a read of this thread.

http://turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.ph ... lastpost=1

Its pretty much exactly what your asking, and the blokes on turbominis run everything from 10s to 13s with a hell of a lot of power.
Author:  Mike_Byron [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:21 am ]
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I remember the end of the group C cars at Bathurst. A leading driver of the time ( I have forgotten who) said "why are we lumbering around in 700 hp cars using a quarter throttle when the Group A cars are three seconds faster with half the power ??".

Sheer power just isn't the whole package.

Mike
Author:  Super-mini [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:40 am ]
Post subject: 
You just cant get that kind of power down through the front wheels.

Look at how fast a lotus elise is with only 118bhp.

the minis best weapon is its weight
Author:  mini is my ride [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:41 am ]
Post subject: 
all good points, and I know power is not everything

to handle it Z cars have also introduced an AWD sub frames
for a mini so when you put your V Tec in it can handle it

edit> I can't say much cause I have never experienced
much more power than a 998 in mini although I drove
a done up 1275 down a street it almost did it for me :lol: >
Author:  Super-mini [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:44 am ]
Post subject: 
yea thats the way to do it,
build a car from scratch and plonk a fibreglass shell that looks like a mini on it.
Author:  blue_deluxe [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:43 am ]
Post subject: 
Super-mini wrote:
yea thats the way to do it,
build a car from scratch and plonk a fibreglass shell that looks like a mini on it.


If you want speed bike engines are the way to go, in a spaceframe chassis.

So pretty much what the mini man has built.
Author:  GT mowog [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:38 pm ]
Post subject: 
drmini in aust wrote:

IMO. 150ATW would be heaps for street use. :lol:


+1, in fact I'd say 120 - 140 HP gets the job done with some sanity.
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