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Author:  mmalleck [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:34 am ]
Post subject:  Mk1 New British Racing Green paint formula
Based on a previous thread, I see a couple of Berger paint codes for New BRG. I'm having a hard time finding a formula.

1965-66 New Cedar Green/New British Racing Green 5258
1966 New Cedar Green 01322

Does anyone have a paint code or formula that translates to PPG, Dupont, BASF, etc. Or a link to a source for this information?

I also need the Oz engine color code/formula.

Any help appreciated.

Mark
Author:  simon k [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:56 am ]
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your best bet with the engine paint is probably to ring Mini King in Sydney and ask if they can post a tin of it to you - depending on what US customs will allow. They *may* be able to give you the formula, but would probably take some convincing that you're not going to reproduce it

we can normally take the 5 digit paint code into an auto paint shop and they look it up on their computer - if no-one else comes up with the formula, I could going to my local paint shop and see if they'll share it, they are pretty friendly
Author:  mmalleck [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:12 am ]
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I can send a Mini King a note. I think small amounts might be okay.

As for a paint code, any help would be appreciated. The smallest quantity of the Glasurit paint I'm using is a pint, which is $130 usd. Each test is another $130 :shock:

Mark
Author:  crisonic [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:18 pm ]
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A lot of well known restorers down here use Sherwood Green metalic for the engine
The MITS code for this is 4631 and I am pretty sure its a Nissan color
You need to know which factory the car came from . Certainly this color is awful close for the Aus painted motors. Cant be sure about UK paint
Author:  watto [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:37 pm ]
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If it is an Aussie-built car then the MITSUBISHI Sherwood Green is close.

The colour Mini King sells is apparently closer.

That being said; the Cooper S engines came completely built up from the UK, already painted in BMC engine green (which varied over the years anyway, but was a dark green). According to John Parnell - Original Mini Cooper And Cooper S: "Although many variations of engine colour are seen on restored cars nowadays, the closest match is Land Rover M10 Bronze Green. Original 'BMC engine green' had no official formula and several different shades are known to exist."

Once the engines had been checked over and the numbers stamped into the engine block (an Australian legal requirement) they were then resprayed with the BMC engine colour of Metallic Green Metallic.

So, technically, to get exactly the right colour would require spraying the engine in original (English) BMC engine green, then over-spraying it with (Australian) Metallic Green Metallic.

I have seen so many variations on restored cars for this very reason that, basically, if you think it looks about right then that's probably as good as you will get.

Now, for New BRG colour code:

Interestingly, there are two colours listed on the color stickers on Cooper S, being British Racing Green and New British Racing Green, but there is only one colour code in the Dulux paint book and in the two colour charts and lists that I have.

So, assuming this is the correct colour code, and I'm not guaranteeing it is, then it should be:

526-00862 British Racing Green

Formula:
Tinter / Setting
05431 / 179
05440 / 266
05434 / 318
00743 / 402
05433 / 500

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Watto.
Author:  mmalleck [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:35 pm ]
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Thanks for the wealth of information Watto! I had read about the engine painting the occured in Australia over the dark green. My engine has three layers: dark green - green metallic - dark green.

I will take these numbers to the paint store and see if they can mix it.

The more I look at my test panel, the more I like the dark green that I sprayed. It has been living with me in my living room so I can look at it under varying lighting conditions. I might spray another coat just to see if it darkens up a bit.
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:23 pm ]
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I stole these photos from someone else a while back (I can't remember who)...

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A while back I took some photos of my Morris 1100 Automatic engine to show how BMC painted the imported engines, you can see the original green under the Classic Gold...

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Author:  mmalleck [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:42 pm ]
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Hi Morris,

My paint is likely the New Cedar Green in the picture. Trouble is, the number doesn't show up in the computers in the USA. I'll find a way...if not, I'll switch to Marine Blue or Shadow Blue. HA! (ID plate wouldn't match though) I've threatened to use chrome orange, but I couldn't attend any local Mini club meetings. Switching colors also means replacing that "lovely" green interior.

Mark
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:08 pm ]
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It really does not matter what colour it is. Nobody will know it is wrong unless you tell them.
Just use the colour that you like and can easily get and then tell everyone how much trouble you had matching the correct paint. I am sure that is what everyone else does. :lol:

I can just picture you at a car show trying to explain how Australian British Racing Green looks orange. :mrgreen:
Author:  watto [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:35 am ]
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Well, if you need the paint code and mix for Cedar Green, let me know.

Cheers,
Watto.
Author:  low n blown [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:15 pm ]
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I had paint mixed up about 6 months ago to match mk2 engine green metallic green metallic. I used an original rocker cover I had from my fathers cooper S that had never been resprayed. I put a post up about it including contact details of the company that did it. They kept the formula and it has been done in air dry enamel. For pics see latest Mini Experience mag show engine shot. Colour is very very close to original . Only difference is the metallic flake you can now get is not as fine as the old metallic frost.
Greg.
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