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| Author: | mtsmini [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cooper S - is it a real one? |
I'm looking at a Cooper S. Is it a real one? engine# 9F-SA - 7 42346 chassis# C-A 257-892866 
Seat is apparently a factory fitted rally option - or so I'm told. Question #1: is it an original real one? Question #2: what's obviously not original? Mike |
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| Author: | Panthersteve [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:19 am ] |
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Hi My sources tell me that this is a Austin Cooper S 970cc, obviously an English car. Your numbers quoted as engine# 9F-SA - 7 42346 chassis# C-A 257-892866 should be 9F-SA-X 42346 C-A-2S7-892866 I don't know enough about them to give clues as to being correct or not, but it looks nice. Let me know where it is if you don't buy  
Cheers Steve |
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| Author: | simon k [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:28 am ] |
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holy crap - it's an english bodyshell for starters, so you're on your way. A heritage certificate would be available for it through British Motor Heritage you need to read this book to see how original it is: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=tM_ ... q=&f=false Panthersteve wrote: Let me know where it is if you don't buy
f*cking ditto - there were hardly any 970's built - a figure qas quoted recently, less than 500? |
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| Author: | Mike_Byron [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:31 am ] |
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It certainly looks a nice car. I cant comment on its originality. Whilst you can't beat cubic capacity the 970 motor is a very desirable motor supposedly revving very very hard. Would be interesting to know what crank and rods it now has in it. BTW - is it my imagination or the photo angle but does the top of the drivers door unnaturally stick out ???? Mike |
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| Author: | mini-mini [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:36 am ] |
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That car was for sale, using the same photos, on the U.S based Mini Mania website around six months a go. The car was based in the U.S and the asking price was 40k USD I think you better check the legitimacy of the seller. 
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| Author: | simon k [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:36 am ] |
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Mike_Byron wrote: BTW - is it my imagination or the photo angle but does the top of the drivers door unnaturally stick out ????
Mike yeah, but I think it's just not shut properly there are some clues about the car, I'll check my copy of Parnell tonight... - It has Hydrolastic suspension, which would make it late '64 onwards if it was an english 1275 S, not sure about the 970's - It has a late (MK3) speedo fitted, and obviously the fascia has been altered we need Graham In Aus |
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| Author: | Mike_Byron [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:37 am ] |
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Also note where the door catches on the body just behind the driver's seat. Hopefully just a door alignment problem and not a re-shell and retro fit. Like Simon says - get a heritage certificate just to be sure. Mike |
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| Author: | simon k [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:42 am ] |
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Mike_Byron wrote: Like Simon says - get a heritage certificate just to be sure.
I wouldn't get the heritage certificate until after I was sure it was genuine and I had it sitting in my garage at home - costs $100 and only confirms what you (hopefully) already know. I bet mtsmini isn't really looking at buying it, he's probably sitting at his desk with the actual owner watching us (me) get all excited about finding a genuine 970 
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| Author: | mini-mini [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:45 am ] |
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Mike_Byron wrote: Also note where the door catches on the body just behind the driver's seat. Hopefully just a door alignment problem and not a re-shell and retro fit.
Mike There is nothing wrong with the door. it is simply not completely closed. This is a common practice for storing cars which are not used too often. It saves the door sills. |
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| Author: | TheMiniMan [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:47 am ] |
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it certainly "Looks" like an English car from the pics,,,, it certainly "Looks" like an "S" from the photos,,, but photos don`t do any car justice & it`s almost imposible to pick if it`s absolutely totally genuine unless you physically eye-ball it in the flesh the block (however i can`t see quite clearly) lloks like its taller than the water pump & i can`t quite see the large rectangular cast piece under the oil cooler hose,,, maybe get the block casting number from the back of the block if you can the Right-hand fuel tank certainly isn`t genuine to the car tho, as they came out with only one tank (L/h) ,,, & the few that were fitted with a factory accsessory tank were actually fitted with a welded up type "Serks" tank like mine there are "Plenty" of other things to check but i`m not going to go on & on because (like i said before) you really need to eye-ball the car in person & a British heritage cert means nothing really,,, it doesn`t "Proove" anything,,, its just a cert stating that a particular car was sold by a particular company on a particular date.... it certainly doesn`t guarantee it was actually "THAT" car tho |
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| Author: | Hanra [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:48 am ] |
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But there must be some sort of an alignment issue with the drivers door? Sagged hinges? Its been clipping the body work and has taken the paint off. |
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| Author: | TheMiniMan [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:51 am ] |
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yeah pretty common on the old things hey? just needs an adjust & tighten i`d say |
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| Author: | simon k [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:53 am ] |
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TheMiniMan wrote: yeah pretty common on the old things hey? just needs an adjust & tighten i`d say
uh huh... it's just a door FFS |
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| Author: | 850 GT [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:59 am ] |
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Have another look at the engine shot guys, what is not right about the head? |
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| Author: | simon k [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:03 pm ] |
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850 GT wrote: Have another look at the engine shot guys, what is not right about the head?
it's a smog head, but 'meh, AEG163 heads are around... edit: I was more curious about the oil cooler, whether or not it should have one, or if it should be the type that hangs off the oil filter housing... but once again, it's a bolt on part |
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