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Author:  MiniBob [ Mon May 31, 2010 3:31 pm ]
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Has anyone removed the cam on a 1275 without taking the lump out ?
No tappet locker/covers on a 1275.
Appreciate there might be a hole required in the inner wing but has anyone tried it ?
Any special tools or tips available for follower removal ??l

Author:  Austin850 [ Mon May 31, 2010 3:36 pm ]
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I believe that it is possible but is it worth the trouble?

It's not that hard to remove the engine and everything becomes that much simpler once it's out.

Cheers,
Simon

Author:  simon k [ Mon May 31, 2010 3:38 pm ]
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very risky I reckon...

Matt Read said tip the car on it's side
someone (sgc?) said put STRONG magnets on the pushrods and lift them up
for the pain it could cause, I'd be pulling the motor out. If one slips, you've gotta pull the motor and strip it anyway, cheap insurance if you pull the motor out and tip it up on it's side

but besides, if you're putting in a freshly ground cam, the person who ground it would recommend (GR might insist?) that you put in new followers

Author:  sgc [ Mon May 31, 2010 3:50 pm ]
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Nah, wasn't me.. 'twas the Doc. I'd still recommend yanking the motor, it's so easy I can't imagine going to the trouble of doing it in-situ. That and the new-followers thing ;)

Author:  MiniBob [ Mon May 31, 2010 3:55 pm ]
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simon k wrote:
very risky I reckon...

but besides, if you're putting in a freshly ground cam, the person who ground it would recommend (GR might insist?) that you put in new followers


Yep, I wouldn't do anything else. And the old ones would be taken out before I removed the cam. An earth magnet might work...........................

Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon May 31, 2010 4:13 pm ]
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sgc wrote:
Nah, wasn't me.. 'twas the Doc. I'd still recommend yanking the motor, it's so easy I can't imagine going to the trouble of doing it in-situ. That and the new-followers thing ;)

I was just quoting Vizard, so don't blame me!:lol: No way I'd do it in situ, as you would want to replace all the cam followers anyway. Never mind that the oil pump spider will probably get dislodged and fall into the box too... instant gearbox mess and no more oil pressure.

Author:  simon k [ Mon May 31, 2010 4:13 pm ]
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MiniBob wrote:
simon k wrote:
very risky I reckon...

but besides, if you're putting in a freshly ground cam, the person who ground it would recommend (GR might insist?) that you put in new followers


Yep, I wouldn't do anything else. And the old ones would be taken out before I removed the cam. An earth magnet might work...........................


nah, you can't get the followers out through the pushrod holes - they far too small

pull & split it is!

and put in a new oil pump

Author:  simon k [ Mon May 31, 2010 4:14 pm ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
Never mind that the oil pump spider will probably get dislodged and fall into the box too... instant gearbox mess and no more oil pressure.


nah, his is a slot drive pump... but it's a moot point

Author:  MiniBob [ Mon May 31, 2010 4:25 pm ]
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simon k wrote:
MiniBob wrote:
simon k wrote:
very risky I reckon...


nah, you can't get the followers out through the pushrod holes - they far too small

pull & split it is!

and put in a new oil pump


Bingo, thanks mate that was the detail I was looking for.
Looks like I'll be embarking on my first A series extraction.
You could say I was a virgin :lol:

Author:  Harley [ Mon May 31, 2010 4:37 pm ]
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Is this the MPI car or something else?

Author:  Davo111 [ Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 pm ]
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wait til the next Garage day and we can ALL watct you lose your virginity over a snag and cold beer. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  GT mowog [ Mon May 31, 2010 5:17 pm ]
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It can be done in situ, but why would you?

If you remove it you will be able to;-

Clean the engine down properly before dis-assembly,
Time the Cam in with ease,
Replace the Follows,
See everything that you need to,
Do all those other silly little jobs that you've been putting off, and
It will almost certainly take less time...

simon k wrote:

someone (sgc?) said put STRONG magnets on



I did suggest this once in a post here, but you'd only do this if you were wanting to swap a cam for a short period ie development work etc....

Author:  poeee [ Mon May 31, 2010 5:19 pm ]
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My engine crane is calling... Bobbbbbbb... Bobbbbb...

Author:  sgc [ Mon May 31, 2010 5:23 pm ]
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Small side-note.. Supercrap have a cheap collapsible engine crane in their catalog specials atm.. I got one last week, it's a good'un, and cheap! :)

Author:  GT mowog [ Mon May 31, 2010 5:28 pm ]
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sgc wrote:

...........Supercrap have a cheap collapsible engine crane...........



Not sure I like the sounds of a collapsible engine crane...... :lol:

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