This is a seat out of a wreck I had. non engineered and very crude but a good base for an idea. If I ever put a seat in a van it will be done similar to this.

I've removed the rear seats from our Clubman Estate because it's impossible to fit rear seats belts - there's nothing substantial enough to anchor them back there. The only reasonable solution would be to weld in a cross brace, which kind of defeats the purpose.

While it's your call, I wouldn't want the liability of such a modification.

While the UK factory never worked out how to fit rear seatbelts into an estate, the Australian prototype had them. They were anchored in the top rear corners near the roof and passed through droplinks near the side windows. The seat still folded down unobstructed.


Thats why you use an engineer.

Tim

Any talk about liability and impossibility is rubbish.

You can get seats with integral belts so all you have to do is mount the seat to the floor and the belts already mount to the seats. It is really easy.

There's no room to fit modern seats between the storage bins (same width as between a saloon's storage bins). Might be feasible in a van though.

While it might be feasible to fit strengthening subframe, it's a massive effort as the plans would (in NZ) need to be run past the committee of engineers that manage modified vehicles.

Running belts to the back of the vehicle doesn't sound particularly 'elegant' and again would need to be certified.

But if you think discussing liability of modifying a vehicle's safety features is rubbish, bear in mind in any accident such home made modifications are going to be the subject of much scrutiny. Up to you...

So which bit of my post went over your head? I am talking about getting an approved seat fitter to fit the seats and belts so that they comply to the requirements. Did you even check the link I posted?