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Our cup overflows with worthy project ideas

Mick wrote:

Our cup overflows with worthy project ideas

Yeah, but the money cup seems forever empty. :cry:

The Weslake name scares me.
Old Harry Weslake was probably the most overrated cylinder flow expert ever.

Morris 1100 wrote:

The Weslake name scares me.
Old Harry Weslake was probably the most overrated cylinder flow expert ever.

Didn't he design the V12 Jag heads too? (Not that stock ones were much good...) :lol:

I'm a bit of a believer in the minds of those earlier engineers. At the time they brought us the mini, they British had already brought us the turbine (Whittle), (Babbidge) computers, and the SR71 Blackbird (Kelly Johnson) which could catch the setting sun. There wasn't a lot they didn't know, and were simply waiting for the technology to catch up I believe.

Could there have been a reason they made heads (like the 202) like they did when they could just have easily stuck their fingers in the sand moulds to relieve the chambers? Removing sand or changing the patterns costs next to nothing, and actually reduces the amount of steel required, even if it is by a small amount...

Is it to do with the low speeds the engines were meant to operate at? Did it improve economy? I don't believe they were stupid, I think they had something else in mind when they designed and had the heads signed off by the engineering departments. A different mindset perhaps.

You know all the stuff that you remove with a die grinder, Harry put it there!
All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas.

All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas.

Morris 1100 wrote:

All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas.

You mean like the Gurney-Weslake engines that powered the GT40's to le Mans wins in 68 & 69?

Morris 1100 wrote:

All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas.

You mean like the Gurney-Weslake engines that powered the GT40's to le Mans wins in 68 & 69?

Author:	Asphalt [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:24 am ]
Post subject:	New Weslake 8 port heads...
Look: http://mk1-forum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1616

Author:	850man [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:25 am ]
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On my list of things to buy! There were some alloy versions of this head kicking around a while ago but I am glad they have finally made them in iron again. Great heads, they have a massive potential for big performance. I mate of mine owns an original and is currently having the original "slide" throttle set up reproduced to use with the Lucas injection, the same machine shop is looking at making the heads from alloy.

Author:	Mick [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:03 am ]
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Our cup overflows with worthy project ideas

Author:	850man [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:41 am ]
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Mick wrote: Our cup overflows with worthy project ideas Yeah, but the money cup seems forever empty.

Author:	Mick [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:09 pm ]
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Hmmm....time for the paper mache to come out.

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Author:	'77 clubby van [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:49 pm ]
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850man wrote: Mick wrote: Our cup overflows with worthy project ideas Yeah, but the money cup seems forever empty. You need a smaller cup...

Author:	Morris 1100 [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:48 pm ]
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The Weslake name scares me. Old Harry Weslake was probably the most overrated cylinder flow expert ever.

Author:	drmini in aust [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:17 pm ]
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Morris 1100 wrote: The Weslake name scares me. Old Harry Weslake was probably the most overrated cylinder flow expert ever. Didn't he design the V12 Jag heads too? (Not that stock ones were much good...)

Author:	Morris 1100 [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:32 pm ]
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drmini in aust wrote: Morris 1100 wrote: The Weslake name scares me. Old Harry Weslake was probably the most overrated cylinder flow expert ever. Didn't he design the V12 Jag heads too? (Not that stock ones were much good...) I don't know if he did the early V12 Jag heads but the later ones were done by Michael May. Harry Weslake did a lot of work on Austin heads. You know all the stuff that you remove with a die grinder, Harry put it there! All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas.

Author:	Mick [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:46 pm ]
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I'm a bit of a believer in the minds of those earlier engineers. At the time they brought us the mini, they British had already brought us the turbine (Whittle), (Babbidge) computers, and the SR71 Blackbird (Kelly Johnson) which could catch the setting sun. There wasn't a lot they didn't know, and were simply waiting for the technology to catch up I believe. Could there have been a reason they made heads (like the 202) like they did when they could just have easily stuck their fingers in the sand moulds to relieve the chambers? Removing sand or changing the patterns costs next to nothing, and actually reduces the amount of steel required, even if it is by a small amount... Is it to do with the low speeds the engines were meant to operate at? Did it improve economy? I don't believe they were stupid, I think they had something else in mind when they designed and had the heads signed off by the engineering departments. A different mindset perhaps.

Author:	68Rusty [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:09 pm ]
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Mick wrote: I'm a bit of a believer in the minds of those earlier engineers. At the time they brought us the mini, they British had already brought us the turbine (Whittle), (Babbidge) computers, and the SR71 Blackbird (Kelly Johnson) which could catch the setting sun. There wasn't a lot they didn't know, and were simply waiting for the technology to catch up I believe. Could there have been a reason they made heads (like the 202) like they did when they could just have easily stuck their fingers in the sand moulds to relieve the chambers? Removing sand or changing the patterns costs next to nothing, and actually reduces the amount of steel required, even if it is by a small amount... Is it to do with the low speeds the engines were meant to operate at? Did it improve economy? I don't believe they were stupid, I think they had something else in mind when they designed and had the heads signed off by the engineering departments. A different mindset perhaps. From what I understand the mini was targeted at the fuel crisis as economies were recovering from war efforts but actually missed the boat a little. But from the old data I have read fuel economy was always a priority as long as the car could reach 60mph I think your thoughts are probably pretty sound Mick I don't think back then when the Mini was released, anyone thought the mini could be considered a performance vehical until the cooper mini's started to surface??

Author:	GT mowog [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:11 pm ]
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Morris 1100 wrote: You know all the stuff that you remove with a die grinder, Harry put it there! All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas. That maybe true from an all out Power point of view, however from a low torque and an economy standpoint, old Harry did it right. Even to this day, against modern motors, the mosre basic A series engines are amongst the most fuel efficent engines about

Author:	AEG163job [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:15 pm ]
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Morris 1100 wrote: All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas. You mean like the Gurney-Weslake engines that powered the GT40's to le Mans wins in 68 & 69?

Author:	Phat Kat [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:17 pm ]
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AEG163job wrote: Morris 1100 wrote: All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas. You mean like the Gurney-Weslake engines that powered the GT40's to le Mans wins in 68 & 69? Ooooooo sorry mate... I hate to dissagree with you... but I think you'll find that that was the early GT40's that he worked on... the 289s.... the ones that won were actually built by Shelby.... I could be wrong though... but I seem to recall both reading and then seeing on a doco that the first ones did alright but the famous 1-2 finish was with the 427's

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Author:	Morris 1100 [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:21 pm ]
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AEG163job wrote: Morris 1100 wrote: All the power comes from removing Harry's ideas. You mean like the Gurney-Weslake engines that powered the GT40's to le Mans wins in 68 & 69? Did they have Weslake prepared engines? Or did they just use the Gurney-Weslake heads? (or maybe just the rocker covers?) Gurney broke off his dealings with Weslake in 67 when the Weslake V12 F1 engine was a disaster.