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Author:  jubblies [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Expansion Tanks

My old plastic expansion tank has expired (cracked and UV damaged). It was not a mini one but a round one that worked well. I have a (what I believe is a) morris type plastic expansion tank but can't see where to mount it.

Is it worth running an expansion tank and if so, where do I put it?

It's a leyland, the round after market unit was mounted in front of the alternator (behind the grille) and was a perfect fit but where does this new oval shaped unit go?

Advice and pics would be a great help.

Author:  willy [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:32 pm ]
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In the summer months and only if your Mini has a problem of boiling (in which case, you have far more problems than a "quick fix" of putting an expansion tank on), you might be able to save it for a few more minutes in idle traffic.

Do you have coolant retention issues?

Author:  Mick [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:45 pm ]
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I keep a brass version of your plastic one fitted behind the passenger front wheel within the arch. It is nice to not worry about coolant levels from one end of the year to the next... but its not totally necessary in an efficient cooling system, just reassuring.

Author:  jubblies [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:59 pm ]
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willy wrote:
Do you have coolant retention issues?


No, there are no issues although I did notice a 9 pound cap on the tank when I removed it. I have recently upgraded to a 1&1/2"su from a 1&1/4" but that is the only change in more than 15 hrs.

Author:  GT mowog [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:27 am ]
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I know Mini's came without one, however the Moke and Morris 1100 had them and I suspect that they were not factory fitted to Mini's because they could work out where to put one.

There is no way I would consider running without one. Definitely a 'must have'.

Generally, I use the Moke / Morris 1100 ones. In the Clubbies they go nicely where you have described, just make some brackets :wink:

Author:  Irish Yobbo [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:28 am ]
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I have no expansion tank, but I think I might add one at some stage. There's no problem with cooling, but if you go for a drive on a hot day, more coolant is lost than on a cold day (just due to the expansion).

That means if you drive on a hot day and then a cool one, the coolant will be too low on the cool day. I've never had any problems, but I often fill it back up just in case, which means I go through more coolant than necessary.

Author:  GT mowog [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:30 am ]
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Just to clarify a little on why I insist on them is not always to cure an apparent overheating problem, but to prevent worse and bigger problems occuring further down the track from air, in any amounts, getting in to the system.

Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:53 pm ]
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I am with GT on this. They are something that should be fitted.

I suspect the only reason they didn't fit them standard was cost.

With my Morris 1100 I have never had to top up the coolant in 12 years. I have changed it but never had to top it up.

Author:  jubblies [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:37 pm ]
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Cool - sounds like a resounding yes for the expansion tank. I thought this might be the case. I will fit the plastic tank. Does anyone have pics of this type of tank in a mini?? Pics of the bracket would be awesome. Thx everyone for your responses so far.

Author:  gafmo [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:11 pm ]
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I also voted yes also as I have 1 one in Morris and never had a problem with cooling. at this stage i don't have 1 for Marcia but Yes I will be getting 1 but one :wink:

Author:  gafmo [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:11 pm ]
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I also voted yes also as I have 1 one in Morris and never had a problem with cooling. at this stage i don't have 1 for Marcia but Yes I will be getting 1 but one :wink:

Author:  slinkey inc [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:51 pm ]
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I have always used them and never needed to top up a cooling system.

I've used lots of different ones from various cars. Try your local U-Pull-It or Pick-A-Part or whatever they are called. I've gotten brass expansion tanks of various sizes from Rover 3500s, Range Rovers and Morris 1100s I reckon.

Author:  jubblies [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:34 pm ]
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OK - I think a quick trip to U-Pull-It is on the cards. Failing that I will make a bracket for the other one I have.

Author:  Mick [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:51 pm ]
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jubblies wrote:
OK - I think a quick trip to U-Pull-It is on the cards. Failing that I will make a bracket for the other one I have.


I think from memory that fuel tank straps are the right width, and have a captive nut on one end or the other that you can reuse.

Author:  bnicho [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:58 pm ]
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RWD Holden Geminis (1975-84) have a neat little bracket that bolts between the top of the rocker cover and the air cleaner. It has a captive nut for the air cleaner bolt. Get two of them (there's one on each Gemini) and the air cleaner bolt. It's the perfect size for the job.

Cheers,

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