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 Post subject: CONVERTING HYDRO TO DRY
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:26 pm 
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WONDERING IF YOU CAN USE WET SUB FRAMES AND BEST WAY OF ATTCKING THE TASK.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:48 pm 
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It is possible, yes, but not necessarily the best result.

The front frame will require some minor modification up in the tower to allow the donut to seat flat. The stock hyro arms will also make for a stiffer ride. Some like it, but for road use I don't. The car will tend to sit lower too as the towers are actually about 1/4" taller on the hydro frame, but hi-los will sort that.

A similar mod is needed on the rear frame for the donuts, but is easier to do (better access). You will also need to modify the rear trailing arms as they don't have a threaded stud for the shock mount, but best to swap them for dry ones as the wet ones will be very soft indeed.

IMO, get dry subframes, it would be easier and better.

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I did it by grinding slots into the rubber cones so they'd fit over the hydro bag locking tabs... didn't modify the subframes at all, but I did fit dry arms front and rear

but they won bathurst and monte carlo with hydro suspension - and a much nicer ride


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:36 pm 
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CHRISCO wrote:
WONDERING IF YOU CAN USE WET SUB FRAMES AND BEST WAY OF ATTCKING THE TASK.


Why are you YELLING !! or are you just really really Hypo :wink:

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I don't think the right question is being asked, it shouldn't be can it be done.

What should be asked is, why the hell would anyone want to do this :?: :wink: :?

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Panthersteve wrote:
I don't think the right question is being asked, it shouldn't be can it be done.

What should be asked is, why the hell would anyone want to do this :?: :wink: :?

Steve

Good question. 8)
I find hydro bags outlast rubber cones as long as the car is in use.
And as Simon says, the ride is far better, for example I can sail across deserted `wombat crossings' at 60-70kmh... try this in yer dry Mini (which I have done once in Barney- eeeek... :shock: )

[edit] And on the NSW excuses for roads, hydro (with front shocks and comp rear bumpstops) handles better too.

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Have to agree...I have 1 of each..Stay with Hydro

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Welcome to the forum Chrisco, where an odd bunch :D but in time you'll fit in. 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:31 pm 
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Can I just add to the hydro love-in? :mrgreen:

I can't believe how good it is after driving a hyrdo based car regularly again in the last few months. Hate having to drive mcpherson strut cars after that...

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MG Rocket wrote:
Welcome to the forum Chrisco, where an odd bunch :D but in time you'll fit in. 8)


Who You calling Old...We just like a bit of comfort and stability

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Can I just add to the hydro love-in? :mrgreen:


+1 here.

My car is riding a few mm higher at the moment with the HOT weather in Melbourne, the ride is if anything, even more comfy :lol:

Funny thing, I was talking on the phone earlier and idly sat on the front guard.. got a surprise just how pliable the front end is compared to rubber cones 8)

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A round-nose with hydrolastic & a remote 22G1128 gearbox,

The perfect trifecta :lol:

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A round-nose with hydrolastic & a remote 22G1128 gearbox,

The perfect trifecta :lol:

Got one.. with lotsa power, in a sleeper body (matic). :lol:

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sgc wrote:
VulcanBB18 wrote:
Can I just add to the hydro love-in? :mrgreen:


+1 here.


+1 here as well. I don't want my mini to ride worse than it currently does - where's the sense in that?

Simple answer is yes it can be done.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:29 am 
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My S was converted to rubber many years ago and I put it back to hydro last winter. The ride is 100% better and I have a hunch the hadling is better too, net to do some track time to prove that. It was a big job but I'm very happy with the result, just perfect.
Stick with Hydro I say.

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