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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:56 am 
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I've burnt through my 2nd exaust manifold gasket in about 200 miles. This is the gasket between the head and the extractors. Centre exhaust port burnt through - Maniflow extractors on a 1275, standard size ports.

Last gasket change i did all the right things:
cleaned all the faces on extractors and head
made sure everything was flat (cleaned up with a flat file)
new standard type gasket (grey with metal insert) installed dry
ensured everything was seated properly when doing up.
retighted nuts after warming up
retighted nuts after a drive

Looking for ideas, what are others doing with success?
VHT Copper coat?, smear of hi-temp silastic? anything else?

Novelty of doing gasket changes is wearing off.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:17 am 
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did you measure the thickness of the manifold flange on the extractors against the inlet manifold flange and make sure the washers were thicknessed accordingly?

I had that trouble and I think I ended up getting the extractors ground flat and the same thickness top & bottom


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:33 am 
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1. Maniflow LCBs- the middle flange is not flat, or in the same plane as the end ones. Usually. Cure- grind/file it flat.
I bolt it to an old head with no gasket, then check around with a .002" feeler gauge.
2. There are better manifold gaskets- Unipart do a turbo one with metal rings on the exhaust ports. See Mini King or Karcraft.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:01 pm 
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every thing looked ok as it went back together, inlet manifold and extractor flanges same thickness etc

metal ringed gasket sounds good. Installed dry? or with any type of goop/copper coat/loctite etc.

Thanks for the help guys


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:10 pm 
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Might seem un-related but is your ignition timing right?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:41 pm 
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Ignition is ok, starts easy, no pinging, runs strong to 6500, fuel mixture, engine temperatures good, RC40 exhaust etc. If i was having issues here, then yes ignition timing might be an issue. Seems to me to just a direct mechanical issue

Both gasket problems have occurred at the end of track days. 1st Gasket failed after 3 track days, 2nd gasket failed after 3x sessions at a track day.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:01 pm 
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Just looked online and seen a picture of the turbo exhaust gasket, looks like it will do the job, thanks doc


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:28 pm 
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I'd get out the verniers and measure all the flanges. A few mm either way will stuff things up. Make sure you use the proper thick exhaust manifold washers and new nuts (don't cost very much from minis.com.au, in fact I think they sell a whole set).

Manifold gasket mounted dry. I've never had problems with std gasket when done properly...

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