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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:17 am 
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I am about to fit the standard cooper s flares to my van, and I plan to use the standard leyland fitting kit. Does anyone have or know where I can get a template to mark the hole positions for the plastic clips? I'm guessing back in the day there must have been a template for dealers and customers to fit these to their cars...

Any advice will be appreciated.


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I assume you have the pieces of flat metal spot welded (or rivetted) to the lip of each guard as per the Cooper S? If so you don't really need the plastic button fitting kit to hold the flare against the guard. These buttons were held on by self-tappers which eventually caused rust to form around the hole in the guard. You can buy little metal clips like very tiny bulldog clips which hold the outer edge of the plastic flare to the outer edge of the flat metal base piece. Also, the pop rivets holding the chrome finisher on are sufficient to keep the flare in place.
All the above comes courtesy of John at Mini King, as do spare flares and clips. Suggest you give him a call.


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Yes, I have the sheet metal guard extensions. I have found that even with the chrome strip in place, the flares do not fit really nicely against the guards when compared with my S, which had the flares retro fitted in the 60's using the fasteners. Seems like they need a helping hand, which led me to get the plastic button clips. They must be a newer type repro item, as they just press fit into a hole. Would still like to explore using them for a nice result.

The last set of flares I fitted to another car had the same issue, and I ended up using sikaflex to get the right result. Unfortunately this car is red, and they don't make the sikaflex adhesive in red...


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I have just been through this process myself. Will include the following photos at some point in my gallery section, but this may give you some ideas.

I made up the metal strips myself from some 0.8mm zincaneal sheet. At the early stage it was wider than needed and would be trimed to size when the flare was sitting on top. The pencil line indicates the outer edge of the lip
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This was my guard when I started.
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First thing is to get the lip nice and square to the body so the flare sits against the body without having to use glue.
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Metal strip held in place by clamps.
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Spot welded with the MIG. Only enough to hold in place in case I want to remove in the future. You can also use rivets.
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Sit the flare on top and draw a pencil line to trim the strip.
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Cut down with angle grinder and file edges to remove sharp edge.
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Basic completed shape with welds.
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Clips used for holding flare (is covered by chrome side moulding)
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Flare should sit flat and without a gap against body.
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Finished shot - took a day to do all 4 corners. After this stage I sealed the strips on the join with the lip with sikaflex so water cannot get underneath. John at Mini King also advised against using the black clips as they have to be screwed on and this in itself can lead to rust problems.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:30 am 
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Thanks for the detailed description Dave.

I have riveted my metal strips and trimmed them up to suit the flares. Think I might need to do the hammer persuading part to get them square, should solve my issue.

Cheers for your help.


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So, does anyone have rough measurements for these metal strips?
I have metal at work i can use, i just want to know where to start.

Thanks 8)

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MrFail wrote:
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So, does anyone have rough measurements for these metal strips?
I have metal at work i can use, i just want to know where to start.

Thanks 8)


There was a guy on ebay selling them a while back, would make life easy.


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This should be made into a howto. This is great

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Gawd! that was three years ago. :shock:

Tape the flares into place with tape on the top. Use a piece of card and line it up with the inside edge of the lip. Scribe a line a little wider than the width of the flare. Cut out the card and use as a template that will have to be trimmed later.

This is what it looks like underneath:

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The flare is held with the clips (original one bought from, and still available from Mini King)

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You have to purchase the correct Cooper S chrome moulding that covers the clips and clicks on nice and tight. You should end up with the flare sitting flat against the body.

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miniDave wrote:
Tape the flares into place with tape on the top. Use a piece of card and line it up with the inside edge of the lip. Scribe a line a little wider than the width of the flare. Cut out the card and use as a template that will have to be trimmed later.


Easy as....
Thanks Heaps 8)

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Hi

Thay are really nice flares

Where could I get a set from

Also what is the width of the flare

Thanks

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kiwiinwgtn wrote:
Hi

Thay are really nice flares

Where could I get a set from

Also what is the width of the flare

Thanks

Bernard


I think if you read his comments, they are a reproduction of the original 's' type flares from John at Mini King
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i was going to fit mine after i get it polished, was going to put a few dots of sikaflex and duck tape it tight to the body over night
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i kind of like not having them on and just keeping the extended sheet metal look

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Australian built cars, Cooper S or Clubman, never used the plastic buttons that require drilling holes in the guard or rear side panel.

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Dodge... put those flares on man!

Not only do they increase the look of the vehicle tenfold, they also add protection (every little bit counts!) to the legs of pedestrians you may strike in the event of an accident - or that's what the police will say when they fine you for not having finished bodywork.


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