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Author:  IndigoBlueCooperS [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Oil Cooler Nipple

Anyone know were I can get the block and oil filter head nipples for a late model A+ engine to take standard Cooper S style oil cooler hoses?
The block thread (which is the same as the filter head) looks to be 11/16 with 20TPI, which is larger than the early A+ engines.

Author:  IndigoBlueCooperS [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:08 pm ]
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So who has fitted an oil cooler to a late model A+ block with the larger threads?
What nipples or hoses were used???

Author:  woodwormm [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:28 pm ]
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hehe, he said nipple! hehe

sorry having a ren + stimpy moment...

hopefully someone else has something constructive to say

Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:32 pm ]
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Yes the threads are 11/16" UNF.
Mini Spares does a hose kit from block to filter with fittings, but I can't see the fittings listed separately. :x

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx? ... 398&title=

Author:  IndigoBlueCooperS [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:06 pm ]
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Somerford list some hoses which have the nipple incorperated into the hose, but they are long ones for a Clubman - no seperate nipples.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:28 pm ]
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If you want to use S hoses or similar (the usual 1/2" BSP flare fitting) I can screwcut brass ones, but I would need to find an 11/16" UNF nut to fit them to.. it's not a real common size.
Or, I buy an 11/16" UNF dienut. Much faster process, IF I can find one. :wink:

Author:  IndigoBlueCooperS [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:00 pm ]
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Found a tap at Chronos in the UK.
11/16 UNF, but not sure of the TPI to confirm the thread.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:40 pm ]
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Tap is no good, I need a die, to cut external threads.
I will try Graham Macdonald's tomorrow.

UNF is UNF, thats what was the old American SAE fine thread. Only 1 pitch per size, unlike metric threads. UNC is their coarse pitch one.

Here's one-
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RDGTOOLS-11-16- ... 5192c66d9b

Author:  IndigoBlueCooperS [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:46 pm ]
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My mistake,
They have a "11/16 UNF Carbon Die (Ref: 1116UNFD)" for 20 pounds.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:02 pm ]
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IndigoBlueCooperS wrote:
My mistake,
They have a "11/16 UNF Carbon Die (Ref: 1116UNFD)" for 20 pounds.

That one I listed above is cheaper, freight is very cheap too.
If you buy me a die, I will make you 2 brass fittings 1/2" BSP-11/16 UNF for $20/pr, + post.
Just to get you out of trouble... :wink:

Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:35 am ]
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OK the plot thickens...
According to Graham McDonald Services, 11/16" x 20tpi is NOT UNF, it is UNS (ie special).
A die is available, $109.00 +GST.
Dienut is unavailable..

11/16" UNF thread is 16TPI, not 20.

As you only want 4 fittings made it's hardly worth spending $119.90 on a die, IMO. Once the lathe is set up I can screwcut them.
Unless we can get a die cheaper on the web.. I'll have another look. :wink:

I wonder what possessed Rover to use such an obscure thread- surely Metric would have made more sense if they really had to change it!!

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