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Author: | Gadgets mini [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | marrying block to gearbox hints, tips, tricks please |
So I am About to start marrying the gearbox to the new short motor and reassembling the rest of the motor. what tips, hints can you seasoned mini specialists offer? what do I need to be mindful of in the assembly? what should I avoid doing in the first place that could stuff things up? What should I look out for??? Tolerances etc??? you get the drift I want to do it right the first time the easiest way with out costing more bucks should I go about it the wrong way Cheers |
Author: | simon k [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:46 pm ] |
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fit the half moon seal to the engine, the timing plate holds it in place between the plate and the front main bearing cap I hang the block from my engine crane so that it's sitting nice and level, then I crack the hydraulic valve and let it slowly slowly come down, guiding it into place nice and easy Some (including Dr Mini) like to tip the engine upside down and place the gearbox on top of it. but make sure you've done your idler gear clearances before you put them together, too late afterwards |
Author: | drmini in aust [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:02 pm ] |
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simon k wrote: fit the half moon seal to the engine, the timing plate holds it in place between the plate and the front main bearing cap
I hang the block from my engine crane so that it's sitting nice and level, then I crack the hydraulic valve and let it slowly slowly come down, guiding it into place nice and easy Some (including Dr Mini) like to tip the engine upside down and place the gearbox on top of it. but make sure you've done your idler gear clearances before you put them together, too late afterwards I fit the box to the engine, upside down on the engine stand for a few reasons: 1. It is all up at working height so you can see what you are doing. 2. The gearbox is lighter to lift than a block is. Even easier with 2 blokes holding the box. 3. You can see the 2 dowel pins in the block whilst lowering the box on vertically. 4. It is much quicker to tighten all the bolts from above. Due to this better control there is way less chance of the 1/2 moon seal moving during the operation. I have not had one leak since doing it this way. Simon, it is possible to check and rectify idler gear clearance with the box already on the motor- I have made a DrMini tool to do this. 2 of these tools exist- mine, and one I sent to Portugal. ![]() note- the bent bit of wire pushes/pulls the idler gear in and out. |
Author: | 1071 S [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:38 pm ] |
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Or you can just use a piece of dentist putty. Bolt the drop gear case on, remove, measure squished putty slice and choose shim/washer whatever you call it) to match. Cheers, Ian |
Author: | dodge [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:02 pm ] |
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dont forget to check the clearance between the box housing and main studs. if ur using arp bolts , nuts and washers u may need to remove the washers on the outer main caps and machine the stud down 3mm ![]() |
Author: | Gadgets mini [ Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:11 pm ] |
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cheers guys ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Tombo [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:19 am ] |
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I assemble it upside down too. Make sure all sealing surfaces ar uber clean and dry too. Little hijack, What do the mini gurus use for gasket / half moon sealant? I've found loctite 515 / 518 seems to do ok. |
Author: | drmini in aust [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:37 am ] |
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Tombo wrote: I assemble it upside down too.
Make sure all sealing surfaces ar uber clean and dry too. Little hijack, What do the mini gurus use for gasket / half moon sealant? I've found loctite 515 / 518 seems to do ok. I use Loctite 515 master gasket, just a light smear. It is an anaerobic sealant (sets when there is no air). I hate people that used silicone sealants (like on this 1360 I'm building now)- the stuff squeezes out and gets absolutely everywhere. It had totally blocked the lube holes in the diff side covers, no wonder the bushes were overheated and worn. |
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