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I have seen several late mokes with the bottom plate installed upside down so anyone can drive them. That is anyone who doesn't know to lift for reverse

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What about the aluminium 'carrier' (for want of better word) that is inside the shifter housing? Does this wear heavily?

Mokesta wrote:

I have seen several late mokes with the bottom plate installed upside down so anyone can drive them. That is anyone who doesn't know to lift for reverse

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Marky the late mokes had a differnt bottom plate that was specifically made/modified by the factory to be fitted up-side-down because that had fitted the other side of the bottom plate with a spring mech to act against the bottom of the lever instead of that curved plate

i know it sounds funny but if you get the chance to take a late moke plate off you should see the new design spring thing attached to the "now" upper side :-)

& to willy,,, yes the stick is worn on the bottom & Mark is right with it only effecting the reverse lock-out mech

but the slop can easilly be reduced dramatically by simply fitting a quick-shift :-)

yeah sorry i`m cheating but it really is that easy :-)

AND GET A SHIFT BIAS!!!!! I have one fitted to my Cooper S, and it is OMG SO GOOD!!!!! It makes it shift very very very simmilar to my Sisters 2003 Holden Astra..

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=36367

AND GET A SHIFT BIAS!!!!! I have one fitted to my Cooper S, and it is OMG SO GOOD!!!!! It makes it shift very very very simmilar to my Sisters 2003 Holden Astra..

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=36367

Author:	willy [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:10 pm ]
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I am wanting to make my gear shifter feel a lot nicer than it does, so have stripped down the shifter itself - only removed the shift lever and bottom plate. This is what I have found: I am quite sure that the end of it has very advanced wear on the rod. Does the bottom plate look ok? What else wears? The alloy union that the rod ball pivots in? Do these generally require replacing? Any tips/help greatly appreciated.

Author:	Irish Yobbo [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:48 pm ]
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I was just looking at mine today. And yes, I believe that does look pretty worn at the base of the rod. Mine has a small grove from running on the edge at the base, but nothing like that. The base plate looks OK, but maybe a bit too curved - I'll have a good look at mine tomorrow to compare. The roll balls look fine to me.

Author:	Mokesta [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:30 pm ]
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I think that curved plate at the bottom is just the reverse detent that forces you to lift the shifter before it will move across into reverse. I don't think it makes the actual 1-4 gear changes any different. I have seen several late mokes with the bottom plate installed upside down so anyone can drive them. That is anyone who doesn't know to lift for reverse. So the wear on the end of the shaft isn't making your shifts sloppier. M

Author:	Morris 1100 [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:37 pm ]
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I suppose if the shift it sloppy enough it will wear the bottom plate and gearstick when trying to get 4th gear.

Author:	TheMiniMan [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:59 pm ]
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Mokesta wrote: I have seen several late mokes with the bottom plate installed upside down so anyone can drive them. That is anyone who doesn't know to lift for reverse M Marky the late mokes had a differnt bottom plate that was specifically made/modified by the factory to be fitted up-side-down because that had fitted the other side of the bottom plate with a spring mech to act against the bottom of the lever instead of that curved plate i know it sounds funny but if you get the chance to take a late moke plate off you should see the new design spring thing attached to the "now" upper side & to willy,,, yes the stick is worn on the bottom & Mark is right with it only effecting the reverse lock-out mech but the slop can easilly be reduced dramatically by simply fitting a quick-shift yeah sorry i`m cheating but it really is that easy

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Author:	willy [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:37 pm ]
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I was thinking about doing that. Ok so where is the slop coming from? Shall I drift out and inspect all the roll-pins? What about the aluminium 'carrier' (for want of better word) that is inside the shifter housing? Does this wear heavily? I want it to have a "new" feel before it goes into the car.

Author:	mini_mad_matt [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:37 pm ]
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Have a close look at the slot on the side of the gearstick. The part which sits in the top of the shifter. If the slot is flogged out, or the pin in the shifter housing part which sits in the slot is worn then the gearstick can flop around a bit. So if you think of it as the pivot point slopping around. Sorry for the really bad explanation. Otherwise the play is possibly at the other end of the rod change or in the box.

Author:	The Duckmeister [ Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:42 am ]
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willy wrote: What about the aluminium 'carrier' (for want of better word) that is inside the shifter housing? Does this wear heavily? I was having a chat to my local Mini shop a while ago about this exact problem, and the guy there said yes, that "carrier" thing that the ball on the shift lever sits in does wear quite a bit. Which reminds me, I should go back & see if he's got any of them in stock now; he had some on the way when I went to fond out about it.

Author:	Fiji [ Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:28 pm ]
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TheMiniMan wrote: Mokesta wrote: I have seen several late mokes with the bottom plate installed upside down so anyone can drive them. That is anyone who doesn't know to lift for reverse M Marky the late mokes had a differnt bottom plate that was specifically made/modified by the factory to be fitted up-side-down because that had fitted the other side of the bottom plate with a spring mech to act against the bottom of the lever instead of that curved plate i know it sounds funny but if you get the chance to take a late moke plate off you should see the new design spring thing attached to the "now" upper side & to willy,,, yes the stick is worn on the bottom & Mark is right with it only effecting the reverse lock-out mech but the slop can easilly be reduced dramatically by simply fitting a quick-shift yeah sorry i`m cheating but it really is that easy do u sell quick-shifts matty. damb this just reminded me that i need to get round and pick up and pay for the slave cyclinder. hows the carb looking any progress?

Author:	brett [ Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:32 pm ]
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AND GET A SHIFT BIAS!!!!! I have one fitted to my Cooper S, and it is OMG SO GOOD!!!!! It makes it shift very very very simmilar to my Sisters 2003 Holden Astra.. http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=36367

Author:	mini_mad_matt [ Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:54 pm ]
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brett wrote: AND GET A SHIFT BIAS!!!!! I have one fitted to my Cooper S, and it is OMG SO GOOD!!!!! It makes it shift very very very simmilar to my Sisters 2003 Holden Astra.. http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=36367 That's not really a good selling point is it?

Author:	brett [ Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:13 pm ]
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LOL, Matt.. It actually makes it centralised. so it makes 3rd and 4th shift so easy!

Author:	willy [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:32 am ]
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brett wrote: AND GET A SHIFT BIAS!!!!! I have one fitted to my Cooper S, and it is OMG SO GOOD!!!!! It makes it shift very very very simmilar to my Sisters 2003 Holden Astra.. http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=36367 Rod change gearbox in a Cooper S?! I am confused!

Author:	brett [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:19 am ]
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Changed the remote 4 speed to a nice 5 speed

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Author:	willy [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:46 pm ]
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Here's a video indicating the slop! I think it's safe to say she's rooted. I am just not sure if it is in the ball itself, or the aluminium housing that the ball sits in. Probably both (and considerably!)