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Author:  minilee [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  rebuild engine
hey guys

how much would you need to rebuild and engine ? to make it goes faster and better , what would you need and who can do it ?

or just getting an engine thats already been done , my budget is 2k
Author:  Bubbacluby [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:48 pm ]
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To make your car go much better get some headwork done, change the camshaft and chuck a weber and extractors on it and it will go great.

$2k for the motor.

If its a 1275 rebuild, that wont cover it. The last rebuild i got done was mates rates and was around 3700 (but my motor was really haddit)(that was a pretty much standard build and this included head and gearbox rebuild also)

Im not sure what a general mechanic charges for a motor rebuild, but i think even for a small bore 2k is pushing for a basic rebuild

If you can rebuild yourself you will save a lot of money.

* Headwork alone can cost you nearly a grand by itself,
* Weber and manifold $500-600, or maybe 1 3/4 su (will be much cheaper)
* LCB Extractors say $150
* new cam $150.

So theres your $2k spend before the rebuild begins :wink:
Author:  jme [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:13 pm ]
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I don't know if this is good value or not, but it is interesting:
http://minisport.com.au/category67_1.htm#1654
Author:  minilee [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:43 pm ]
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thanks mate

i have already got some extractors , exhaust , manifold and a 1.1/2 inch su ready to go , i think i need to rebuild my box as is on its way out .

im not after racing performance or speed just need a reliable car as a daily but with some grunt , more then what i have now :(
Author:  PDJ [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:59 pm ]
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What size engine do you have though?
Author:  minilee [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:06 pm ]
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1100
Author:  adamstuart [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:23 am ]
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I think the 1100 is great in daily traffic.

How ever, my 1100 has a 3.6 diff, so it's quick off the line but screams on the highway..

If you don't already have extractors and a bigger carby on your motor, putting those on will make a noticable difference.
If your box needs doing, i'd do that first.

If you've already got the exhaust and intake bits, a stock 202 head will make a noticable difference over a smog head, which I presume you have.
Author:  minilee [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:11 am ]
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Thanks Adam

I have got those part but I'm still waiting to see if I want to over haul the whole engine , how much a 202 cost and would I be able to do it my self , I'm new to mini , not really Machnic skilled just basic oil change n etc .

How much it cost to check n recon a gearbox ?
Author:  1310/71 [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:52 am ]
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Realistically, you haven't got enough money to do what you want. You would be better off looking for a good secondhand engine and gearbox someone else has already done and add the bits you already have onto it.

To give you an example, the gearbox would be close to $600-700 in parts alone to rebuild. The engine has others have said, would eat your budget up before you got it back in the car.

I would say though, that you need to find someone who can check what your current engine and gearbox actually needs first. Since you're in Fairfield, I'm guessing your choices may be Mini King at Narellan; Greig at Mini Classic (Ermington?); or Ivan at Castle Hill as starters. All capable and respectable mini people - their contact details used to be in a sticky somewhere on here.
Author:  Convertible Mini [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:11 am ]
Post subject:  Faster more powerful engine.
Not forgetting you will also need a pair of GOOD Quality ear Muffs if you fit a Webber.
Author:  mattsmadmini [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Faster more powerful engine.
Convertible Mini wrote:
Not forgetting you will also need a pair of GOOD Quality ear Muffs if you fit a Webber.


And a deep pocket for fuel...
Author:  Bubbacluby [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:01 am ]
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adamstuart wrote:
a stock 202 head will make a noticable difference over a smog head, which I presume you have.


You reckon? When i changed on one of my cars didnt make a difference really. In my books a smog head and a 202 head are the same. I wouldnt bother

A worked 202 head makes a noticable difference or are you getting a confused with a 295 head.

You could always get a 295 head, whicih will be cheaper than having someone work a head for you, and 295 heads to perform ok and are the BEST stock head for a small bore you can get.

Brenton
Author:  Irish Yobbo [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:17 am ]
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1310/71 wrote:
Realistically, you haven't got enough money to do what you want. You would be better off looking for a good secondhand engine and gearbox someone else has already done and add the bits you already have onto it.

To give you an example, the gearbox would be close to $600-700 in parts alone to rebuild. The engine has others have said, would eat your budget up before you got it back in the car.


This all depends on how much you want to do yourself. If you want to bring the mini to a specialist, drop it off and pick it up finished, it'll cost you. But if you are interested in doing it yourself, you can save a stack.

I was looking around for a reconditioned gearbox, as mine was rooted. The going price is about $1000, and that's without the labour to put it in. I decided to have a crack at reconditioning the box myself. To rebuild the box and diff, replace all the engine mounts and steady bushes, repaint the bay, engine and all the brackets and engine seals cost me about $400 (it was a more if you include the 2nd hand box I bought and didn't use).

Personally I find it far more fun to do it yourself, just make sure you do your research. I knew nothing about cars before my mini. The only issue is the equipment required.
Author:  adamstuart [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:20 pm ]
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Bubbacluby wrote:
adamstuart wrote:
a stock 202 head will make a noticable difference over a smog head, which I presume you have.


You reckon? When i changed on one of my cars didnt make a difference really. In my books a smog head and a 202 head are the same. I wouldnt bother
Brenton


A 202 and 4004 head are pretty far from the same, have you ever looked at them side by side? You can't even fit your finger down the ports on a 4004!

The difference may not be huge, but it's noticable.
That's not to say the smog head isn't a bad head.

But if there is a gain, then for the $50 odd a 202 head goes for, it's worthwhile in my opinion.

If you want a 295, it will be a lot better but harder to track down.
There's one for sale for ~$450 in for sale at the moment
Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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Stick a 27mm drill down the smog head's inlet ports. Then fit some bigger inlet valves and port it to suit.
It's worth doing if you can do it yourself- 4004 smog heads can be ported out just like a 202 can, but there's much more metal to remove so add more $$$ if paying someone to do it.
Nope sorry I don't port heads any more, my eyesight ain't the best now.
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