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all you metal heads :) what does not react with alloy
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Author:  NG [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:00 am ]
Post subject:  all you metal heads :) what does not react with alloy

howdy lads

Im looking to tap into some alloy parts, i bought from specialist components.

I have no idea what reacts with alloy? if i use a steel bolt thats will fuse right?

what about a titanium bolt? stainless? or is it best just to slam it with cooper paste.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:07 am ]
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Steel is fine, S/S is too (but may be weaker depending on grade).
Don't use copper paste, dip the bolts in lanolin or Permatex/Loctite #3 gasket cement.
Works fine on outboard motors (with S/S studs). :wink:

Author:  NG [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:29 am ]
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why not copper paste? i have some of that zinc paste at home the silver stuff would that work?

Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:35 am ]
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Copper and aluminium are bad companions. Add water and you will promote corrosion.
That silver paste may be nickel, not zinc (if it is anti-seize compound).

Outboard motor makers (Johnson & Evinrude) dipped all their threads in lanolin (wool fat) before fitting.
I used to use Permatex #3 gasket cement on these when replacing. It seals the water out. 10 years later, I could still screw them out.
I still use it on Mini thermostat housing studs.

Author:  NG [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:39 am ]
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ok cool thank you doc :) ill do that then! yes i have the nickel one sorry. would that work?

Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:26 am ]
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Nickel anti-seize would be better in alloy than copper.

Author:  MiniBob [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:27 am ]
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NG wrote:
howdy lads

Im looking to tap into some alloy parts, i bought from specialist components.

I have no idea what reacts with alloy? if i use a steel bolt thats will fuse right?

what about a titanium bolt? stainless? or is it best just to slam it with cooper paste.


Being nosey but, wot you fitting ?

Author:  NG [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:25 pm ]
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rear alloy hubs & alloy mini fins to lighten up the mini a bit,

might go alloy rear arms not sure yet or im going force racing split rims and leaving it at that.

Author:  The Duckmeister [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:32 pm ]
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Alloy doesn't particularly like stainless steel unless you properly isolate the joint. Especially if you're anywhere near a marine environment; the salty air will trigger corrosion.

Author:  NG [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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so would titanium be better?

Author:  69k1100 [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:01 pm ]
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Don't know if it's different for drums but once I finished bleeding from my knuckles and screaming profanities I finally got the remains of the screw out (with a bloody big hammer and impact driver, which I twisted in the process) I threw that screw away as I reasoned the clamping force from the wheel nuts would be more than that puny screw anyway. And now if I ever have to change discs again it's much easier, as that screw won't ever get seized again.

Author:  Phat Kat [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:14 pm ]
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+1 for what the doc said.

Author:  Drewie [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:18 pm ]
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[quote="drmini in aust"]Copper and aluminium are bad companions. Add water and you will promote corrosion.

Question for you 'drmini' slightly off topic but seeing we are discussing anti seize, I am going to change the long life iridium spark plugs in an all alloy V8 shortly, I was going to use the jar of copper based anti seize I have until I read this thread, any suggestions as to what to use? They are long life plugs so will be in the alloy for like 80,000km and a lot of years.
Appreciate your thoughts.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:23 pm ]
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I would use nickel anti-seize, it is better for high temps than copper anyway.
I use the nickel one on the Y-piece of my Maniflow LCB. Hopefully it won't seize on like it did with the copper one. :x

Author:  MiniBob [ Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:55 am ]
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NG wrote:
rear alloy hubs & alloy mini fins to lighten up the mini a bit,

might go alloy rear arms not sure yet or im going force racing split rims and leaving it at that.


Thanks, I've done the same but not split rims. And I used KopraCote on the drum screws so I think I'll check 'em out :roll:

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