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| Author: | tomtom [ Thu May 31, 2012 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | QLD: 998 -> 1100, need mod plate? |
After digging around stuff for come rego time (optimistic), it would appear that I'll need a mod plate for the previous owners upgrade from a 998 to 1100? Seems a bit ridiculous when theres basically nothing different on the car between the two motors. Would be good to hear a definite yes/no on what others did. This is qld, by the way. Thanks |
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| Author: | mini_mad_matt [ Thu May 31, 2012 1:32 am ] |
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What makes you think it needs a mod plate? The answer for QLD is no you don't need a mod plate for that. If a car comes from the factory with different engine sizes/types for the same car then you can fit those engines without a mod plate, so long as no modifications are required to fit the engine, and so long as the braking system meets the requirements for the engine. (As in 1275 needing disc brakes) Oh and it needs to comply with the relevant adr's etc. So that means for minis, you can fit a larger A-series engine without a mod plate. And to upgrade brakes, if you use disc brakes that can be found on a factory mini (that don't require mods) then you can fit those without a mod plate also. But if you put a honda engine in you need a mod plate. If you then upgrade to honda brakes then you need a modplate for that too. You get the picture Whilst i am not certified to do mod plates, i have worked very closely with someone who is and this is where my knowledge comes from. |
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| Author: | clovus [ Thu May 31, 2012 6:42 am ] |
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When I got my mini registered the dept of transport didn't een go and look at it. The guy who did the rwc checked to ensure Ihad disk brakes with the 1275 and passed it as ok. You shouldnt have any problems |
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| Author: | tomtom [ Thu May 31, 2012 7:18 am ] |
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mini_mad_matt wrote: What makes you think it needs a mod plate?
Other places had indicated you needed a mod plate if the engine in it was not the type for that body. E.g. Compliance plate says it should be 998, a 1098 is supposed to have mod plate then. However, it's understandable why it doesn't need on as there's no mods to put it in. Thanks for the answer 
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| Author: | tomtom [ Thu May 31, 2012 7:21 am ] |
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clovus wrote: When I got my mini registered the dept of transport didn't een go and look at it. The guy who did the rwc checked to ensure Ihad disk brakes with the 1275 and passed it as ok. You shouldnt have any problems
But did you put down on the rego form that it had a different engine? This is where the problem is supposed to be, as if you are truthful here it's supposed to say where's your mod plate? |
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| Author: | 69k1100 [ Thu May 31, 2012 8:46 am ] |
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Or you could build a 1098 using the 998 block. |
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| Author: | Panthersteve [ Thu May 31, 2012 9:16 am ] |
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I registered a Deluxe with a 1275 and drum brakes with no problem. The people having a look generally have no idea what the numbers mean in a engine number. Edit: I should add that this car now has disk brakes 
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| Author: | cush [ Thu May 31, 2012 10:18 am ] |
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Use the 998 block. Who's going to know? |
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| Author: | tomtom [ Thu May 31, 2012 10:44 am ] |
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cush wrote: Use the 998 block.
Who's going to know? Well I don't have the block, I guess I may as well register it as a 1098, shouldn't ask for modplate? |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Thu May 31, 2012 11:14 am ] |
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1098s were used in Clubbies until ~1975, so IMO no need for a mod plate going from 998>1098. Same car, brakes and all. As long as they don't ping you for having an engine older than the car is (happened to me once in NSW when a 1098 went in, so I just went to another inspection station for the engine no. change). |
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| Author: | Panthersteve [ Thu May 31, 2012 11:15 am ] |
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tomtom wrote: Well I don't have the block, I guess I may as well register it as a 1098, shouldn't ask for modplate?
You wont have a problem, like I said before the people looking at it will have no idea what it was meant to have. |
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| Author: | cush [ Thu May 31, 2012 11:45 am ] |
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I must stop thinking like a South Australian.* I want to say. Just put whatever in it and register it. *not a bad idea, generally |
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| Author: | mini_mad_matt [ Thu May 31, 2012 2:27 pm ] |
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If you car has a different engine number to what is on the rego papers it's no big deal. What happens is when you get a roadworthy certificate, the inspector fills out all the details as they appear on the car. So the RWC only has the current engine number. Then when you take the RWC and transfer papers to transport, they will note that the number doesn't match their records. They may then ask to view the car so they can check the numbers themself. I presume that if you don't have the vehicle with you then they trust the person who inspected the car. |
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| Author: | Panthersteve [ Thu May 31, 2012 3:04 pm ] |
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mini_mad_matt wrote: . I presume that if you don't have the vehicle with you then they trust the person who inspected the car.
That hasn't been my experience, they always insist on seeing it for themselves. It seems quite the opposite in that they don't believe the inspectors 
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| Author: | mini_mad_matt [ Thu May 31, 2012 4:55 pm ] |
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Fair enough, i always wondered about it, having had the the car with me the only time i had to change the number. They do like to issue fines to inspectors for getting numbers wrong so i guess they like checking it themselves. |
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