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| Author: | flapper [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Help Needed for Early Aust 850 Story! |
Through 61 and early 62 there was quite a few small changes taking place on the 850's. So I would like help to place the changes. So that all of us will be able to refer to this when needed. As a lot of Car's turn up with a lot of unknowns. eg. We have Car No, 8238.. Mini_Fanatic Car No, 5173 It has a fresh air vent hole (with a cover over it) We have a Car No, 2974.. It has no vent hole So if you have a car with a vent hole, with a lower Number than 8238 or a car with a higher Number than 2874 with No hole, please let me know. I think this will be the easiest way to handle this. This will need help from all 850 owners, more so from early owners. If people are interested, we would list the items that we know changed, (like the eg. listed above). I know of about 40 changes but there will be More!!. A couple more to try to see if this is all going to work. One piece roof lining ..Car Number..60542 Two piece roof lining..Car Number..41747 ------------------------------------------------------- Two small holes in the roof gutter each side...Car number..18631 One slot in roof gutter..Mini_Fanatic....Car number.12178 One slot in roof gutter each side....Car number..10619 I don't think this kind of information is available to Mini owners. Lets try to answer some of the unknowns |
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| Author: | mini_fanatic [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:31 pm ] |
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Great idea! I'm keen to support. My attempt last year didn't go too well, I hope this turns out better! Car No. 5173 has fresh air heater hole (with cover). Car No. 12178 has rectangle slots in roof gutter. From sports850's register, both of these cars were built May/June, 1961 an 1962 respectively. Thanks, Evan. |
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| Author: | boink [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:39 pm ] |
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I have a very early 61 austin seven that i can check on my car with. When you mean fresh air hole do you mean the plate on the firewall?? Rob |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:53 pm ] |
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I don't know if this will help or create more confusion. From the BMC Service Bulletins... C173, Distributor Shield. A shield Part Number 14A9229 to deflect water from the distributor was fitted in production from car serial number 9/61393/2421. 17/7/61 C185 Road Wheels. ....The new road wheel with the centre disc pressing of thicker gauge material (stamped with a figure 11) was introduced at commencing chassis No. 59012/1412 11/9/61 C190 Road wheels. ... The figure 11 was deleted at Serial No. 83628/7400. 9/2/62 C229 Baulk Ring Type Syncromesh. ...Was introduced at Serial No.144208/22050 Engine No. 412352. 1/4/63 C280 One Piece Headlining.... Was introduced at Car Serial No. 51216. 6/11/64 C290 Front Shock Absorbers.... Increased length ferrules to reduce noise. Armtrong Shocks with longer ferrules were introduced at Car Serial No. YMA2S1/54948. 16/12/64 C30/65 Introduction of mechanical fuel pumps. ...Introduced commening at engine Nos. Mini Saloon and Van 8Y/U/H 13907 12/8/65 |
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| Author: | tself [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:28 pm ] |
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Car 31756: two piece headlining two round gutter holds Tony |
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| Author: | flapper [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:33 pm ] |
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boink wrote: I have a very early 61 austin seven that i can check on my car with. When you mean fresh air hole do you mean the plate on the firewall??
Rob Yes, we do mean the plate on the fire wall. We are referring to Aust 850's but it would be interesting to know what your Austin comes up with against the Aust one's |
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| Author: | flapper [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:41 pm ] |
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Morris 1100 wrote: I don't know if this will help or create more confusion.
From the BMC Service Bulletins... C173, Distributor Shield. A shield Part Number 14A9229 to deflect water from the distributor was fitted in production from car serial number 9/61393/2421. 17/7/61 C185 Road Wheels. ....The new road wheel with the centre disc pressing of thicker gauge material (stamped with a figure 11) was introduced at commencing chassis No. 59012/1412 11/9/61 C190 Road wheels. ... The figure 11 was deleted at Serial No. 83628/7400. 9/2/62 C229 Baulk Ring Type Syncromesh. ...Was introduced at Serial No.144208/22050 Engine No. 412352. 1/4/63 C280 One Piece Headlining.... Was introduced at Car Serial No. 51216. 6/11/64 C290 Front Shock Absorbers.... Increased length ferrules to reduce noise. Armtrong Shocks with longer ferrules were introduced at Car Serial No. YMA2S1/54948. 16/12/64 C30/65 Introduction of mechanical fuel pumps. ...Introduced commening at engine Nos. Mini Saloon and Van 8Y/U/H 13907 12/8/65 Confusion YES!! Handy Info for down the track. After reading your serial Number 51216 dated 6.11.64 it makes me wonder when my Car number 60542 was made? We will not adjust the number on our list yet, would like to get a car with said fitted roof lining. Thanks for your input/confusion. |
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| Author: | wild_willy [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:12 pm ] |
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Try Search and you will find a lot of information regarding the early 850's. Here for instance. http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... 0+register |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:58 pm ] |
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flapper wrote: Morris 1100 wrote: I don't know if this will help or create more confusion. From the BMC Service Bulletins... Confusion YES!! Handy Info for down the track. After reading your serial Number 51216 dated 6.11.64 it makes me wonder when my Car number 60542 was made? The dates are the date that the Service Bulletin was released, not the date of the production change. Car 60542 would have been some time around January 66. That is the highest number I have seen for an 850. The info I have said there was 60188 cars produced when production ended in January 66. Your car would have been the 60042nd one made. So it was one of the last days of production. |
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| Author: | flapper [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 850 history |
[/quote] Car 60542 would have been some time around January 66. That is the highest number I have seen for an 850. The info I have said there was 60188 cars produced when production ended in January 66. Your car would have been the 60042nd one made. So it was one of the last days of production.[/quote] Thanks good Info on Car number 60542. How would your bible go on production date for our Car number...9/28832/756. This is getting of the rail a bit. I do believe what we are trying to do, is needed when trying to put back together a Car that has not come with all original bits. I Do hope people will get behind this!! |
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| Author: | Mokesta [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:29 pm ] |
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I don't know the ages exactly but I have seen YMA2S1 110525/11702 and it has two piece head lining, english number plate, a fresh air hole in the firewall and rectangular slots in the roof gutter. I have this car in the shed: YMA2S1 35443 and it has two pice head lining, australian number plate, a fresh air hole in the firewall and two small holes in the roof gutter. Can anyone tell me the ages of these cars? |
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| Author: | flapper [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mini History |
Mokesta wrote: I don't know the ages exactly but I have seen
YMA2S1 110525/11702 and it has two piece head lining, english number plate, a fresh air hole in the firewall and rectangular slots in the roof gutter. I have this car in the shed: YMA2S1 35443 and it has two pice head lining, australian number plate, a fresh air hole in the firewall and two small holes in the roof gutter. Can anyone tell me the ages of these cars? Car Number..11702 around May 62 Car Number...35443 around May 63 Thanks for the info, we can add the info from 11702 |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 850 history |
flapper wrote: How would your bible go on production date for our Car number...9/28832/756. This is getting of the rail a bit.
I do believe what we are trying to do, is needed when trying to put back together a Car that has not come with all original bits. I Do hope people will get behind this!! That one would be very early, I would say January/February 61, just after production started. The 9 on the start of the number was only on the early cars. The 28832 was the British car number. The 756 is the Australian car number. The first car was car 501 so your car is really the 256th car off the line. I am only an amateur when it comes to identifying 850s. |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:38 pm ] |
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A clue for dating these cars, they made just over 60000 of them over a five year period. 5 years = 60 months. So they produced an average of 1000 cars a month. But they made more cars a month in the the first four years and it slowed down in the last year (after the release of the Mini Deluxe in March 65) But as a rule of thumb the 1000 a month is a pretty good guide. |
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| Author: | cush [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:59 am ] |
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My fresh air hole has a cover made by some company called "Decor". |
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