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Early cooper hubcars with trim rings - Remove carefully?
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Author:  bnicho [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Early cooper hubcars with trim rings - Remove carefully?

Hi,

My Traveller originally came with hubcaps like this:

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The trim bit with the airholes around the edge is integrated with the cap in one piece. I believe the same caps were used on Cooper 997/998.

How in craziness do you remove them without damaging the wheel or cap? I recently purchased a good used set and I don't want to screw them up.

Cheers,

Author:  graham in aus [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:08 pm ]
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Brett, the original mini lever is the best tool for these, you have to gently bend the outer trim to get the flat pry bit of the tool in near to the centre cap, twist a bit and BOING! Off she comes, try to catch it before it hits the deck! :lol:

Author:  Monte [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:18 pm ]
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i run with these best way ive seen it done slip ur polishing cloth around the back and out the next hole and pull wham they pop off no damage to hubcap or paint on rims

if you need any i have a good stash of them

Author:  peterb [ Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:58 pm ]
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Bit hard to describe but you put the tool through 'vent' hole and between cap and wheel as close as possible to retaining bump on rim, then lever it off by moving lever towards centre of wheel. Sounds arse about I know but they come off no worries.

Author:  XC9000 [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:21 pm ]
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If it helps I can confirm that the two piece hubcap / dress rim were a standard item of the 1964 Short-stroke (998cc) Australian Morris Cooper. Similar effect to the ones in the photos on this thread. Mine had them back in the day.

Author:  bnicho [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:24 pm ]
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Thanks for the suggestions people.

I will have a bit of an experiment with the worst cap and teach myself to do it properly based on your suggestions.

Cheers,

Author:  Panthersteve [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:06 pm ]
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XC9000 wrote:
If it helps I can confirm that the two piece hubcap / dress rim were a standard item of the 1964 Short-stroke (998cc) Australian Morris Cooper. Similar effect to the ones in the photos on this thread. Mine had them back in the day.


Are you saying they were different to the ones pictured :?:

Author:  graham in aus [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:33 pm ]
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Panthersteve wrote:
XC9000 wrote:
If it helps I can confirm that the two piece hubcap / dress rim were a standard item of the 1964 Short-stroke (998cc) Australian Morris Cooper. Similar effect to the ones in the photos on this thread. Mine had them back in the day.


Are you saying they were different to the ones pictured :?:


I have a 64 cooper in restoration (very slow!) it has the one piece caps like those pictured by BNicho.

I know PantherSteve has a 64 Cooper as well, what does yours have steve?

Author:  bnicho [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:40 pm ]
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Since we are discussing the originality of the caps...

I read in one of my Mini books there were two types of these caps. Ones with kidney-shaped slots and ones with semi-circular or "half-moon" slots like in the picture above.

Perhaps what the author meant was the two-piece ones had the kidney slots?

Author:  Panthersteve [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:46 pm ]
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Mine didn't have any with it but I did know about the different shaped cut outs. However I thought both shaped cut outs are in one piece trims. I have not seen two piece trims :?:

Steve

Author:  Goldbrocade_62 [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:12 pm ]
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graham in aus wrote:
Panthersteve wrote:
XC9000 wrote:
If it helps I can confirm that the two piece hubcap / dress rim were a standard item of the 1964 Short-stroke (998cc) Australian Morris Cooper. Similar effect to the ones in the photos on this thread. Mine had them back in the day.


Are you saying they were different to the ones pictured :?:


I have a 64 cooper in restoration (very slow!) it has the one piece caps like those pictured by BNicho.

I know PantherSteve has a 64 Cooper as well, what does yours have steve?

Come on Graham you need to get a move on or it'll rust away

Author:  Timbo [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:41 pm ]
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I'm not sure about kidney or D shaped holes (I thought that style were all the same), but the early cars to 1961 had rectangular cutouts.

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My Traveller has these, but they aren't correct. They also aren't very good, they have these terrible sharp claws that gouge into the paint on the rims and do immense damage.

The two part trims are a normal hubcap with a dress rim around the outside. I thought they were aftermarket, but I have been wrong before.

Tim

Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:53 pm ]
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I'm pretty sure the 2 piece ones were aftermarket.
I remember the 1 piece factory ones hanging on the wall at my local BMC dealer as an accessory.

Author:  Morris 1100 [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:12 pm ]
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Dress rings were available as a BMC accessory but I think they were only the outer ring type.

The three down the left hand side of this scan are all 10" Mini ones.

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Author:  XC9000 [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:45 pm ]
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They were two piece held in by the standard hubcap. The kidney shape like the first photo but I think slightly different. Mini King had three of them there last I visited about 2-3 months ago.

The variable that still exists, I now realise is that I bought the 64 Cooper in 1967 and cannot say that they were factory. I had a friend that also bought a 997 with the same dress rims. We both discarded them when fitting wider wheels.

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