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Author:  IndigoBlueCooperS [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Perspex For The Twini
What is the difference between perspex, polycarb, etc. etc.?
I am after something to replace the engine cover on the Twini Rear Engine.
It is a flat cover, and I was going to use something clear to save me removing the cover when people want to have a look.
Needs some rigidity, and ideally some sound insulation.
The local Bunnings has some sheets that are about 4mm, but they are a bit small.
Any Ideas?
Author:  d1ck0 [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:13 pm ]
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Perspex is a brand name of Poly Carbonate sheeting.

Cheers,

Dicko.
Author:  Monaco [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:48 pm ]
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I think acrylic sheeting is recommended over poly carbonate these days because it does not go cloudy and get stress cracks throughout.
Author:  TheMiniMan [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:56 pm ]
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i think that Lexan is one brand of polly carbonate ,,, & perspex is clear plastic

i`m pretty sure that if you hit perspex it will crack,,, & polly carbonate won`t (as easilly)

2 different materials i believe

edit--> oh & i`d go with polly carbonate cover
Author:  d1ck0 [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:05 pm ]
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You're right, Perspex is in fact poly(methyl 2-methylpropenoate) commonly referred to as "Acrylic"

You would've better off using Poycarbonate fr ts extra strength and durability.

Cheers,

Dicko.
Author:  Rob M [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:37 pm ]
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I would get onto someon like DOTMAR and see if they have any offcuts that might do the job,

http://www.dotmar.com.au/engineered-pla ... ducts.html

im sure they will have something that will fit the bill
Author:  Monaco [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:37 pm ]
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Key characteristics/differences, Acrylic compared to Polycarbonate (Lexan):

More likely to chip, less impact resistance then Polycarbonate. (still 10-24 times more resistant than glass)
Less likely to scratch.
More of a consumer (household) level and is easier to find at hardware stores.
Does NOT yellow after time.
Better clarity and can be restored to optical clarity.
Key characteristics/differences, Polycarbonate (Lexan) compared to Acrylic:

Impact/chip resistance is much higher with Polycarbonate. (about 30 times more resistant than glass)
More likely to scratch.
Substantially more expensive. (roughly 2 to 3 times)
Used for more industry applications
Bulletproof when thick enough.
More bendable.
More formable.
Yellows over time due to ultraviolet rays
Easier to work with (cut, less likely to break)
Poorer clarity, diffuses light, can lighten (could be positive).
Author:  69k1100 [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:48 am ]
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I use a company called acrylix, based off of grange road, I forget the actual name of the street they're on.

* acrylic is a thermo form in my experience. It can be heated and vacuum formed. It cuts nicer on a laser cutter too. Issue is it may melt and deform from engine heat.

http://pslc.ws/macrog/pc.htm

So is sheet polycarbonate. However it doesn't cut as nicely and burns/chars more easily (laser)

I would get an aluminium sheet and punch some cool louvres in it, like the old twin engined works cars. Only because I don't trust the heat.

If your really keen though I'm sure acrylix could point you in the right direction for a clear thermoset sheet.
Author:  69k1100 [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:46 am ]
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Had a poke around, seems people use acrylic or pc for engine covers without issues.

Acrylic is stiff and cracks easier, is harder. However pc is more 'plastic', this is why it stops bullets more effectively than acrylic, it grabs them and deforms rather than cracking. If you we're ever worried about bits flying off the rear ending I would get pc.

Acrylic is way cheaper though.
Author:  willy [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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David,

Speak to the guys at Menzel Plastics
http://www.menzelplastics.com.au/
What they don't know isn't worth knowing!


Also try Acrilix Plastics.
http://www.acrilixplastics.com.au/


WG
Author:  IndigoBlueCooperS [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:31 pm ]
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Thanks for all the info.
I will give Menzel's a call.
Author:  jubblies [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:30 am ]
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We use both Arcylix & Menzels but check your price as one will definitley be cheaper than the other.

We use Lexan in jail's as it is super tough (10mm sheets) and a few other more common applications.
Author:  slide [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:41 pm ]
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I got some Lexan Margard rear screens made up by City Plastics in East St Brompton. One for the rear one piece f/g door on the Mini Van, and the other for the f/g rear hatch on the SD1. They previously had perspex fitted to them, but this started to craze, scratch , discolour all too easily within a relatively short time.
Author:  Tarlo [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:54 pm ]
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Like they said, Perspex is a brand name of acrylic which can be laser cut, but prone to shattering on impact. Polycarbonate (polycarb, lexan) is a shatterproof material similar in look to acrylic. Make sure you get uv stabilised polycarb for outdoor use and it shouldn't yellow or haze.
Author:  moemoke [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:46 pm ]
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Just to throw my 2cents into the ring,

Acrylic, can be folded but you need a heating bar and takes a lot of heat
can crack if you have to cut or drill holes, be very carefull drilling holes :cry:
cannot cut in guilotine
Polycarb, can be folded in a sheet metal folder, just need to adjust the folder for thick material

Have you thought about glass? a sheet of laminated glass is not that dear and will outlast
any plastic, just need a strong frame to hold it so it wont twist

15 years working with plastics, mostly PVC, speaking of which you could get clear PVC although heat would be a problem, tends to go soft above 60°C
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