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Author:  JC [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Gearbox casing numbers

Folks,

I have what I thought was an S box. I've had someone send me a message saying they're of the view it is not based on the casing number.

Casing number is 22A1288.

I have no desire to sell someone something that is not what I think it is.

JC

Author:  Monaco [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:08 am ]
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http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... cce8617911

It could be a transitional mk1 s box from around 1968.

If it is the other stamped in number starts with 12FAxxxxx

See the above thread!

Author:  Monaco [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:17 am ]
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Morris-Mini- ... _500wt_922

It appears correct, except the outputs should be hardy spicer, all the numbers are Cooper S.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:36 am ]
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Not all Mk1 S boxes got Hardy Spicer outputs. The 1965-66 ones had rubber couplings.

Author:  Nicho [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:14 pm ]
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Do all Cooper S boxes have LSD's or are they an option?

Author:  Panthersteve [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:22 pm ]
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Nicho wrote:
Do all Cooper S boxes have LSD's or are they an option?


None of them

Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:14 pm ]
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Panthersteve wrote:
Nicho wrote:
Do all Cooper S boxes have LSD's or are they an option?


None of them

LSDs were available back then for improved production racing as a Special Tuning part.
Not as a factory fitted option.

Author:  TheMiniMan [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:25 pm ]
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yes , just as the good Doc suggests,,, very early "S" boxes had 3sync & rubber unis,,,, plus that Ley-gear is definately very early "S" for a fact

cheers
Matt

Author:  tasti [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:01 pm ]
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I thought all the early mk1 s boxes had the 333 case while the very late mk1 transitional boxes were 22a therefore it should have the hardie spicers with the 22a identification.

Author:  Mokesta [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:08 pm ]
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Would it help to also put up the teeth count for the pinion and crown wheel? That may tell people if it is an S ratio diff.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:12 pm ]
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Mokesta wrote:
Would it help to also put up the teeth count for the pinion and crown wheel? That may tell people if it is an S ratio diff.


18/62 is a 3.444 ratio.

Author:  69k1100 [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:39 pm ]
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Are you the original owner of the box? If not then who knows what it's history is. The case may not be original, I always learnt to tell by the lay gear anyway. I have a few casings that share numbers with mk2 s coopers (from my research) but the laygear tells of their pedestrian nature.

Are hardy spicer unis easy to swap over? I know pot joints use a different side cover.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:42 pm ]
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69k1100 wrote:
Are you the original owner of the box? If not then who knows what it's history is. The case may not be original, I always learnt to tell by the lay gear anyway. I have a few casings that share numbers with mk2 s coopers (from my research) but the laygear tells of their pedestrian nature.

Are hardy spicer unis easy to swap over? I know pot joints use a different side cover.

Pot joints can use a std side cover. But the diff shafts have circlip grooves.

To change to hardy spicers you need S side covers (as the bushes & shafts are 1/8" bigger), S diff output shafts, and S drive flanges & bolts.. New, these bits are NOT cheap.
You can bore some of the Oz made side covers to fit the S bushes as these covers are thicker.

Author:  JC [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:52 pm ]
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Lay gear is 22g232

Author:  JC [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:54 pm ]
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Mokesta wrote:
Would it help to also put up the teeth count for the pinion and crown wheel? That may tell people if it is an S ratio diff.


How do I determine that?

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