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Author:  Ben_Aus_Mini [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:29 am ]
Post subject:  Mini seat and metal cutting required?!
Just wondering are there 2 types of Mini seat with different hinge on the seat brack?

i.e.
#1 one which is a fixed hinge (means when you take the seat out you have to take the seat bracket out too.)

#2 Another one is that u take the seat out without taking the bracket out altogether since u can get the screw on the hinge out.

What Minis in which year has the #1 setup. An 850? How do you seperate this types' seat n bracket?
Author:  Bubbacluby [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:39 am ]
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I think you may be talking about:

The common brackets used from about 62-76 or so (my dates are rough) are 2 brackets (per seat) that bolt onto the side of the seat cross member and the seats front legs slide into these brackets and are held in place by a bolt and wingnut. To remove the seat, unbolt and the seat removes and brackets stay there

The other main type are from 77/78 (maybe only 78 ) the actual seats have the brackets bolted attached to them and are not really removeable (the back one isnt atleast). The front brackets are sorta a triangular shape and have two bolts that bolt to the top of the seat cross member (for each of the front legs). The rear is a panel that curves down and sits on the floor and attaches to the other rear seat leg. The panel has 2 bolts goign through it into the floor.

These are the 2 main types (the 60/61 type are different again, but basically the same as the first style except the brackets are not removable they are attached to the crossmember)

Cheers Brenton
Author:  Harley [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:50 am ]
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I had a 61 mini with removable seat mounts.
Sounds like the sort of thing the early english and CKD cars had.
That'd have to be pretty rare here wouldn't it?
Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:34 am ]
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850s except the 60/61 cars had their 1 position brackets held to the seat frame with a rivet. Their brackets bolted into the front of the X-member as usual.
If you want to use these seats with the later Deluxe etc 3 pos'n brackets, just grind the rivet off and bin the old bracket.
Author:  wild_willy [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:54 pm ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
850s except the 60/61 cars had their 1 position brackets held to the seat frame with a rivet. Their brackets bolted into the front of the X-member as usual.
If you want to use these seats with the later Deluxe etc 3 pos'n brackets, just grind the rivet off and bin the old bracket.



Oh NO, don't bin them. I'll happily swap a set of later 3 hole adjustable brackets for a set of riveted non adjustable. Need a set for my 1962 Cooper.
Author:  Bubbacluby [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:05 pm ]
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Seat brackets and seat conection...

Early 59/60/61

Cant get the picture to show, but can be seen here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrie850/ ... otostream/

Standard style as fitted to most minis


Image

Late 77/78 leyland mini style

Image

Not real sure what people are talking about above :wink:
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:21 pm ]
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This might work (or it might not!)

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Author:  wild_willy [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:56 pm ]
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Bubbacluby wrote:
Seat brackets and seat conection...

Early 59/60/61

Cant get the picture to show, but can be seen here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrie850/ ... otostream/

Standard style as fitted to most minis


Image

Late 77/78 leyland mini style

Image

Not real sure what people are talking about above :wink:


There is yet another style of bracket which fits between the timelines of the 2 brackets you have shown. Similar to the 3 hole adjustment but with only one hole (ie no adjustment) which is riveted to the seat frame and bolts onto the floor crossmember like the later you you've shown.
Like this (sorry abt pic quality)
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Author:  Bubbacluby [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:04 pm ]
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Ok, Dont know if I have seen that one willy.

Thanks Morris1100, I couldnt figure out how to get that particular one to work. :lol:
Author:  Ben_Aus_Mini [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:00 pm ]
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The last picture is exactly what I got. My mini is 64 Morris 850.
Author:  Bubbacluby [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:28 pm ]
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Yep have never seen that one willy.

When did this one occur?

So the seat was fixed and was unmovable?
Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:45 pm ]
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Yeah Bubba these were the first Australian seats, the previous tube framed ones were UK design.
I think the Oz ones started in 1962.. My `61 had the UK ones.
I recently made a set of 4 tube frame brackets for a board member as these are NLA.
Author:  Ben_Aus_Mini [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:05 pm ]
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yo...i got the brackets out...grind it all out but the atupid rivet or bolt...watever u call it still in the way / hole....its like a cylinder thibgy inside the hole. Drill it out or wat?
Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:10 pm ]
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It's stuck in the seat frame?
It's a 1/4" diameter steel rivet.
Grind 1 side of it off flush until with the frame, then punch it out with a hammer and a 6mm pin punch.
Author:  Bubbacluby [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:39 pm ]
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Thanks for the explanation Doc.
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