Hi guys,

I am in the process of swapping my honda civic brakes back to std 8.4's primarily to get the car registered. One of the other reasons for swapping is that they run about a 1" spacer similar to these http://www.minisport.com.au/prod630.htm which i thought we couldn't use on road cars?

Yeah I know each state may be different (I am in SA) but I would be keen to hear if they are road legal.

cheers,

CJ

Email sent.

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DID I MENTION THAT I AM THE BEST SUPPLIER FOR MINI ELECTRICAL PARTS AND REPAIRS?
"Let us remove your "SHORTS"

I don't know the "legallity"side, but the only Spacers i would fit would be the 4 stud /[on wheel face] & 4 holes[round not oval] othe hub face with inset nuts[or half nuts] holding the spacer to the hub.

In SA there is a maximum of 25mm [from memory] increase in track .

Better to buy some rims with different offset & forget the spacers .

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1974 1150cc Leyland Mini S racer,
1975 No motor Leyland Mini "ute"
1991 IPRA Honda Integra (in the build)
1995 Land Rover Discovery 300Tdi

CAMS Scrutineer

I used to make the Honda 25mm `spacers' for people from Mini S spacered drums. So they attached to the hub as per normal factory fitment.
If you are fitting 10" wheels with Honda discs there is no way to avoid using some sort of spacer.

Legal? I dunno, it's a bit grey. Rules say if factory fitment, they are fine. My Fiat 124AC had factory spacers on all 4 corners held on with 2 screws each.
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However, fitting disc brakes off another make of car would be illegal unless engineered. Particularly Hondas and 10" wheels, they need serious grinding of the calipers and mounts to fit in a 10" wheel.
Hence one reason why I don't do Honda mounting bits now.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Sorry not legal in SA unless originally fitted by vehicle manufacture. Check out this link then click on 'Wheels and Tyres' for very useful details on vehicle mods here in SA. http://sa.gov.au/subject/Transport,+tra ... ifications

I just spent sometime looking into what mods I can do to my Mini and was surprised by some of the rules. I was going to fit 6x10 minilights but they increase the track width by too much, max track width for most 1970s minis is 1277mm wide for the front, measured from centre of tyre to centre of tyre. You may want to check out all the links in the above attachment if you are concerned about the legality of your car.

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TOO MANY MINIS AND NOT ENOUGH TIME

Not to be a smarty, but if people followed that Government website, there would not be a car left on the road.
A cop can Defect a brand new vehicle straight off the Showroom floor & there is very little you an do about it.Once he/she issues a Canary ,the only way to get it removed is to front Regency Park & cough up the fees.

Exhaust ... 96dBA[or 90dBa for more modern cars] with vehicle stationary..at what revs ??... they don't tell you so the cop can make you rev to 4/5000 rpm ...

Our racer passes the 95dB test at Mallala@ 5000rpm driveby,top gear [30m @90 *] but hits 105 dB @ 3m /45* stationary, therefore that would be illegal on a registered car.

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1974 1150cc Leyland Mini S racer,
1975 No motor Leyland Mini "ute"
1991 IPRA Honda Integra (in the build)
1995 Land Rover Discovery 300Tdi

CAMS Scrutineer

Ordinarily you can't run the spacers, but if you got your brake setup engineered then it would be okay. The rule is mainly there to stop people making their cars wider, but in an engineered situation where they're there to get the car to the correct track I don't see how that could be too much of an issue.

Yeah I know what you mean by police defecting a new car. My work mate had a brand new Suburu Liberty, he had not long picked it up when he got pulled over for having too dark a window tint. It was factory fitted tint. He had to get a letter from Suburu Australia to prove it.
As for the exhaust its measured directly behind the exhaust and it measures the loudest reading. Keeping the revs down doesn't work as they get you to rev it through the revs to get the highest reading.
Its a bit annoying when you are legal and still get done.

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TOO MANY MINIS AND NOT ENOUGH TIME

Cheers, for the info guys. Looks like I am on the right path to have them removed and put original brakes back on it. For a road car i can't see the value in using another vehicles brakes when the standard mini ones work fine.

Plus it will make rego a lot easier if it isn't modified.....................

cheers,

CJ

The only point in fitting Honda etc brakes was when the Aussie $ exchange rate was low and a set of S disc brakes cost $2K+.
Not the case anymore..

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

I guess I find out how much fun it is to swap them back on Saturday Hopefully it isn't too painful

It's not painful. I've just done he same on my Moke. Anyone want a set of Honda disks cheap?

Cheers,

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

The discs or the whole conversion?

The whole conversion. Disks, calipers, hubd, adaptor plates and hoses. Bolts on and uses drum CV's.

They are Honda City 8.4 inch at standard diameter. Not machined down to fit under 10inch rims. They don't stop any better or worse than Mini 8.4's. I fitted them when 8.4's were expensive. I recently fitted 8.4's because I had some lying around.

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2