The only point in fitting Honda etc brakes was when the Aussie $ exchange rate was low and a set of S disc brakes cost $2K+.
Not the case anymore..
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| Author: | womble99 [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Spacers - Are they road legal? |
Hi guys, I am in the process of swapping my honda civic brakes back to std 8.4's primarily to get the car registered. One of the other reasons for swapping is that they run about a 1" spacer similar to these http://www.minisport.com.au/prod630.htm which i thought we couldn't use on road cars? Yeah I know each state may be different (I am in SA) but I would be keen to hear if they are road legal. cheers, CJ |
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| Author: | Convertible Mini [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | spacers |
Email sent. |
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| Author: | DA9jeff [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | spacers |
I don't know the "legallity"side, but the only Spacers i would fit would be the 4 stud /[on wheel face] & 4 holes[round not oval] othe hub face with inset nuts[or half nuts] holding the spacer to the hub. In SA there is a maximum of 25mm [from memory] increase in track . Better to buy some rims with different offset & forget the spacers . |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:13 pm ] |
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I used to make the Honda 25mm `spacers' for people from Mini S spacered drums. So they attached to the hub as per normal factory fitment. If you are fitting 10" wheels with Honda discs there is no way to avoid using some sort of spacer. Legal? I dunno, it's a bit grey. Rules say if factory fitment, they are fine. My Fiat 124AC had factory spacers on all 4 corners held on with 2 screws each. [edit]- However, fitting disc brakes off another make of car would be illegal unless engineered. Particularly Hondas and 10" wheels, they need serious grinding of the calipers and mounts to fit in a 10" wheel. Hence one reason why I don't do Honda mounting bits now. |
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| Author: | M-JAY [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:31 pm ] |
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Sorry not legal in SA unless originally fitted by vehicle manufacture. Check out this link then click on 'Wheels and Tyres' for very useful details on vehicle mods here in SA. http://sa.gov.au/subject/Transport,+tra ... ifications I just spent sometime looking into what mods I can do to my Mini and was surprised by some of the rules. I was going to fit 6x10 minilights but they increase the track width by too much, max track width for most 1970s minis is 1277mm wide for the front, measured from centre of tyre to centre of tyre. You may want to check out all the links in the above attachment if you are concerned about the legality of your car. |
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| Author: | DA9jeff [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:05 pm ] |
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Not to be a smarty, but if people followed that Government website, there would not be a car left on the road. A cop can Defect a brand new vehicle straight off the Showroom floor & there is very little you an do about it.Once he/she issues a Canary ,the only way to get it removed is to front Regency Park & cough up the fees. Exhaust ... 96dBA[or 90dBa for more modern cars] with vehicle stationary..at what revs ??... they don't tell you so the cop can make you rev to 4/5000 rpm ... Our racer passes the 95dB test at Mallala@ 5000rpm driveby,top gear [30m @90 *] but hits 105 dB @ 3m /45* stationary, therefore that would be illegal on a registered car. |
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| Author: | Harley [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spacers - Are they road legal? |
womble99 wrote: I am in the process of swapping my honda civic brakes back to std 8.4's primarily to get the car registered. One of the other reasons for swapping is that they run about a 1" spacer which i thought we couldn't use on road cars?
I would be keen to hear if they are road legal. Ordinarily you can't run the spacers, but if you got your brake setup engineered then it would be okay. The rule is mainly there to stop people making their cars wider, but in an engineered situation where they're there to get the car to the correct track I don't see how that could be too much of an issue. |
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| Author: | M-JAY [ Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:47 pm ] |
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DA9jeff wrote: Not to be a smarty, but if people followed that Government website, there would not be a car left on the road.
A cop can Defect a brand new vehicle straight off the Showroom floor & there is very little you an do about it.Once he/she issues a Canary ,the only way to get it removed is to front Regency Park & cough up the fees. Exhaust ... 96dBA[or 90dBa for more modern cars] with vehicle stationary..at what revs ??... they don't tell you so the cop can make you rev to 4/5000 rpm ... Our racer passes the 95dB test at Mallala@ 5000rpm driveby,top gear [30m @90 *] but hits 105 dB @ 3m /45* stationary, therefore that would be illegal on a registered car. Yeah I know what you mean by police defecting a new car. My work mate had a brand new Suburu Liberty, he had not long picked it up when he got pulled over for having too dark a window tint. It was factory fitted tint. He had to get a letter from Suburu Australia to prove it. As for the exhaust its measured directly behind the exhaust and it measures the loudest reading. Keeping the revs down doesn't work as they get you to rev it through the revs to get the highest reading. Its a bit annoying when you are legal and still get done. |
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| Author: | womble99 [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:48 am ] |
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Cheers, for the info guys. Looks like I am on the right path to have them removed and put original brakes back on it. For a road car i can't see the value in using another vehicles brakes when the standard mini ones work fine. Plus it will make rego a lot easier if it isn't modified..................... cheers, CJ |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:08 am ] |
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The only point in fitting Honda etc brakes was when the Aussie $ exchange rate was low and a set of S disc brakes cost $2K+. Not the case anymore..
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| Author: | womble99 [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:13 am ] |
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drmini in aust wrote: The only point in fitting Honda etc brakes was when the Aussie $ exchange rate was low and a set of S disc brakes cost $2K+.
Not the case anymore.. I guess I find out how much fun it is to swap them back on Saturday  Hopefully it isn't too painful
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| Author: | bnicho [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:38 am ] |
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womble99 wrote: I guess I find out how much fun it is to swap them back on Saturday
Hopefully it isn't too painfulIt's not painful. I've just done he same on my Moke. Anyone want a set of Honda disks cheap? 
Cheers, |
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| Author: | Harley [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:41 am ] |
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The discs or the whole conversion? |
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| Author: | bnicho [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:31 am ] |
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Harley wrote: The discs or the whole conversion?
The whole conversion. Disks, calipers, hubd, adaptor plates and hoses. Bolts on and uses drum CV's. They are Honda City 8.4 inch at standard diameter. Not machined down to fit under 10inch rims. They don't stop any better or worse than Mini 8.4's. I fitted them when 8.4's were expensive. I recently fitted 8.4's because I had some lying around. |
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