How the fark do you get this nut undone
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| Author: | Kennomini [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | gear box disassemble, new Q page 2... |
How the fark do you get this nut undone
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| Author: | CPOCSM [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:48 pm ] |
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Lots of swearing and cussing. I take it you have locked the box in 2nd and 4th(or is it one and three??). Wait until you have to retighten it Hooroo. 
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| Author: | MiniVLT [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:58 pm ] |
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Minimania videos show to lock 1st & Reverse....well on the build up anyway. I use a 1/2" drive breaker bar a short extension and a 3 foot long piece of round tube for extra leverage......and the last gearbox i had to jump on it to crack the nut! Only because I couldn't hold the box by myself at the same time as hanging off the extension tube! Cheers Shane |
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| Author: | Mick [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:02 pm ] |
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Yep, all that and I don't know how something doesn't just break when you do... |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:04 pm ] |
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Lock it in 1st and 4th if it's a 4 synchro, and 2nd & 4th if it's 3 synchro (according to BL manual). Then, you have to hold the case from moving. A few ways: put a plank on it and drive a car up bolt to a bench bolt to a 3M long bit of pressed channel (my present method) put under back of boat trailer and wind the jockey wheel right up (I used to until TK bought my boat). Undoing nut: deep 1-1/2" socket and breaker bar + 6' of scaffold pipe, or rattle gun (not good for gear teeth) If all else fails because some dill has Loctited it, cut 1 corner of the nut off with a 4" angle grinder then crack the nut. They are supposed to be 150 lb/ft, but some fitted by a gorilla are far tighter. |
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| Author: | TheMiniMan [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:14 pm ] |
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bring it down here if you get stuck Kenno,,, we are yet top be stumped by one, in over 45 years we have always got them off,,, & just-in-case we have a "one inch drive electric rattle-gun" which we have used on some stubborn austin 1800 pinion nuts in the past 
easy-peasy
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| Author: | John Smidt [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: gear box dissamble? |
Kennomini wrote: How the fark do you get this nut undone
I am not trying to be a smart a**e but Looking at the gearbox in the photo it does not appear that You have locked it in two gears at that point, Also looking at the amount of ferrous and ferric oxide present I would think You are going to have a few more Problems pulling this one down I would take Matt up on his offer |
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| Author: | Kennomini [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:55 pm ] |
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No I haven't locked it in gear, that's why it's eating a rag  Do I need to remove the selector forks to get it in two gears at once or what?
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| Author: | mini_mad_matt [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:15 pm ] |
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In your photo, just to the left of the pinion nut you can see the selector shafts. You still have the piece which prevents 2 shafts from being moved at once in place. Perhaps follow a workshop manual closer, as it will save you at a lot of time. Also your collection of tools look like toys next to the pinion nut 
Go buy a nice big breaker bar, and if that isn't enough then slide a pipe over it for extra length. |
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| Author: | Kennomini [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:22 pm ] |
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I'd love to see your tool box if you call a 3/4" drive ratchet a toy 
Will that do for a breaker bar? didn't cost me anything either  .
selecting two at once did the trick, it's off now, thanks guys. |
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| Author: | Timbo [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:42 pm ] |
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The one I did recently was barely finger tight. Needless to say the pinion is knackered. Tim |
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| Author: | michaelb [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:34 pm ] |
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You are on the right track. Gearbox held in place OK Just need a longer length of pipe on the spanner |
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| Author: | michaelb [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:35 pm ] |
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And it should go off with a bang when it finally lets go
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| Author: | haze blue 850 [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:13 pm ] |
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Kennomini. Also had issues with mine a couple years back. Did similar as DrMini, but used a drill. Simply "centre-punched" a starting spot on the big nut (side), about 6mm clear of the shaft thread. Then drilled (parallel to the shaft thread) with a 3mm drill bit. Slowly increased the drill bits until it got close (but not touched) to the shaft thread. This weakened the nut enough to smack it with a cold-chissel, thus spreading it enough to loosen. DrMini's way might be better if you have a steady hand. Alex |
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| Author: | mini_mad_matt [ Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:05 pm ] |
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Kennomini wrote: I'd love to see your tool box if you call a 3/4" drive ratchet a toy
Will that do for a breaker bar? didn't cost me anything either .hehe yea a 3/4" ratchet isn't a toy, but it's not the right tool for the job. I don't like putting that much stress on a ratchet, even if it is 3/4". It's still shorter then a decent breaker bar as well. Plus that rattle gun IS a toy
Good work sorting it out though, have fun with the rest of it all. (Maybe i'm weird, but i like doing gearboxes) |
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