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Author:  _666_ [ Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:28 pm ]
Post subject:  rebuilding Mini arms - help

can anyone give me the order of how ro repair the top and rear trailing arms on a mini so as to stop me from ruining them?

ive wire wheeled them and sprayed them

i was next about to get the old bearings replaced with the new ones

but do i make sure all the grease is removed or leave it there (some metal shavings may have gotten in when wire wheeling)

so i just slide the pins in ?

a little help would be quite useful

Thanks

Nick

Author:  Mick [ Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:13 pm ]
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The top arms are straight forward enough, once you remove the old needle rollers, then its a simple case of pushing in the new bearing(carefully so as not to damage the rollers or cage.)

The rear is another matter. The bush needs to be reamed using a special tool. Not really one to do without some planning.

Best to remove all the grease from the front arms, and as much as you can from the rear. At least enough to make sure it does not migrate back into the new bearings once you start pushing grease in again. There's a large hollow space inside the rear arms which fill up with old grease.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:35 pm ]
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Mick wrote:
There's a large hollow space inside the rear arms which fill up with old grease.

it is not supposed to, originally there was a tapered steel tube in the bore of the arm to retain the grease.
Kits now have a plastic one, they fit poorly and can split. Keep the steel ones if you still have them.

Author:  KLAS [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:30 am ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
and can split.
or they are already split in the new kit you just bought. very common over here ....

Author:  drmini in aust [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:50 am ]
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KLAS wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
and can split.
or they are already split in the new kit you just bought. very common over here ....

Who designs and makes this sh!t... we know who sells it. Everybody! :evil:

Author:  ken@miniauto [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:15 am ]
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13' wheel moke rear arms have bearings both ends
No reaming required

Author:  John Smidt [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:58 am ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
KLAS wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
and can split.
or they are already split in the new kit you just bought. very common over here ....

Who designs and makes this sh!t... we know who sells it. Everybody! :evil:


You cannot Sell What You cannot Get, However,
if the original Metal tube is still fitted, Do not change it. The metal one was not always fitted at the factory,

Author:  winabbey [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:11 pm ]
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John Smidt wrote:
You cannot Sell What You cannot Get, However, if the original Metal tube is still fitted, do not change it. The metal one was not always fitted at the factory,

Sounds like another candidate for remanufacturing. I'll see if I can find the part number.

Edit: I found it - AYA 7070.

John - I also found something very closely related that may interest you. You will know what I mean. :wink: :wink:

PM sent

Author:  _666_ [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:59 pm ]
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Mick wrote:
The top arms are straight forward enough, once you remove the old needle rollers, then its a simple case of pushing in the new bearing(carefully so as not to damage the rollers or cage.)

The rear is another matter. The bush needs to be reamed using a special tool. Not really one to do without some planning.

Best to remove all the grease from the front arms, and as much as you can from the rear. At least enough to make sure it does not migrate back into the new bearings once you start pushing grease in again. There's a large hollow space inside the rear arms which fill up with old grease.


so just take both to pedders with the new bearings and ask them to remove/install them for me

Author:  Kennomini [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:18 pm ]
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Rear arm sectioned and steel tube in-suit for those interested;
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Author:  TK [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:12 pm ]
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"You cannot Sell What You cannot Get,"

To some John, it reads "If I can't get quality, I will sell crap."

I will pay more for quality. Most will.

Author:  Mick [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:15 pm ]
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_666_ wrote:

so just take both to pedders with the new bearings and ask them to remove/install them for me


Perhaps for the needle rollers on the front arms, and one half of each rear arm, but the reaming will be a definite issue for pedders.

There's an auto engineering shop that was out near the corner of Stuart Hwy and Berrimah Rd at Berrimah. I had them do a pair of rear arms for me. But that was a decade ago, I'm not sure they will still be in the same place.

Author:  _666_ [ Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:50 am ]
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i think ill just leave the rear bearings there is no reason to beleive they are knackered.. nor the fronts haha but ive already bought the front bearings

Author:  goodie [ Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:54 pm ]
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TK wrote:
"You cannot Sell What You cannot Get,"

To some John, it reads "If I can't get quality, I will sell poo poo."


I certainly didn't read it to say that ,sounds like they have to sell what's available .,
ie: metal tubes aren't available .
Docs comment 's are basically a continuation of another thread about rubbish parts that are getting about nowdays .

Author:  drmini in aust [ Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:22 pm ]
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goodie wrote:
TK wrote:
"You cannot Sell What You cannot Get,"

To some John, it reads "If I can't get quality, I will sell poo poo."


I certainly didn't read it to say that ,sounds like they have to sell what's available .,
ie: metal tubes aren't available .
Docs comment 's are basically a continuation of another thread about rubbish parts that are getting about nowdays .

Yeah sorry JS, I wasn't dissing you & the other Australian resellers, more the overseas suppliers who send this crap in.

The plastic tube thingy has been rubbish for quite a while. If Matt Read and others can get decent MC reservoirs moulded nowadays, surely the same could happen with these things if enough people bitch about the current `Quality'..

I put comp rear bumpstops on Mini Mad's Starlet Clubby a while back, and the whole LH arm was chocka with grease when I drilled & tapped a hole in it.

:evil:

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