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Putting normal shocks in the front subframe?
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Author:  Huelin2008 [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Putting normal shocks in the front subframe?
I think i recall seeing something recently about leaving the rear subframe as hydro and placing shocks in the front subframe?
Am i correct, can this be done or is it easier to just leave hydro all the way around the car

What are the benefits or disadvantages?

Appreciate your help
Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:58 pm ]
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It is common to add shocks to a hydro car, I have them on mine. They only get fitted to the front. The hydro setup stays stock.
The shocks are not `fitted to the subframe', they are bolted to the body using top shock mounts from a dry suspension Mini. The 1/4" UNF threads in the inner guard are already there on all Minis.
You need to drill the top arms and the bumpstop brackets out to 3/8", the top arms are hard to drill in situ- they are tuff stuff. Or you can use M10x100 socket head bolts like I did.
See my thread in the how-to forum.
http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12180
Author:  Huelin2008 [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:08 pm ]
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Thanks dr
Do you think it makes much difference ?
Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:12 pm ]
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Huelin2008 wrote:
Thanks dr
Do you think it makes much difference ?

Well, mine handles as well as most dry Minis and rides much better (we had a pretend Cooper S on rubber cones and Koni shocks as well). On broken bitumen mine is a better ride than my AUII Ford or the wife's Fiesta.
The hydro had dampers built in, but after 40 or 50 years they become a bit ineffective. Adding shocks makes up for this.
I have comp hydro rear bumpstops too, that helps handling as well.

[edit] my car still has original bags in, they are 43 years old this month. 8) They don't sag out of shape and go hard like rubber cones do.
Author:  Huelin2008 [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:16 pm ]
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Sounds perfect...
Author:  Mick [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:29 pm ]
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It is perfect.

I wouldn't dream of not doing it to any hydro mini I might own.
Author:  TheMiniMan [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:17 pm ]
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me too
Author:  TheMiniMan [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:18 pm ]
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me two

:-)
Author:  goodie [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:02 pm ]
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I have the same setup as Doc and it works fine .

On the same subject , but for the rear . I have a mate that mentioned to me the other day
that he was thinking about putting shocks on the rear of his hydro car , interested to hear people's thoughts on this .
Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:09 pm ]
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goodie wrote:
I have the same setup as Doc and it works fine .

On the same subject , but for the rear . I have a mate that mentioned to me the other day
that he was thinking about putting shocks on the rear of his hydro car , interested to hear people's thoughts on this .

Where would you put them? you need to keep the helper springs in there (to pull the arse DOWN = the front UP).
Otherwise it'll sit on the front bumpstops...
Author:  Aussie Brian [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:23 pm ]
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i also did the same set up as Doc described with the comp rear bump stops and it totally changed the car into something that was awesome to drive. :D :D
Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:31 pm ]
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Aussie Brian wrote:
i also did the same set up as Doc described with the comp rear bump stops and it totally changed the car into something that was awesome to drive. :D :D

Don't put the comp bumpstops on the front as well unless you are going offroad rallying.. they are too high.
The std conical front ones work fine.
Author:  brett [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:39 pm ]
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I have them, but even with my minisport 4 pot power assisted brakes, the nose dives badly, even the seat flips forward... if the belt is not really tight...
my Genuine Brakes never did this....

But brilliant to drive...
Author:  jb007 [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:02 pm ]
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The front shocks also stopped/limited the porpoising when I fitted my higher torque 1310. Prior to fitting the front shocks and competition rear bump stops, the car did fantastic drag car impersonations leaving thee traffic lights, much to my sons amusement! :oops:
Author:  Lillee [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:44 pm ]
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Best mod ever! Go for the GAZ adjustables and never look back!
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