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| Author: | John Sneddon [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:20 pm ] |
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According to the published information the first Australian Morris Cooper 997 was shipped from UK in September 1962 and when released in Oz was given the car number YKA2S1 194761 501. Does anyone know the engine number for this vehicle? |
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| Author: | wild_willy [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:29 am ] |
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These cars were delivered as CKD and assembled here. Engines were assigned to the cars on the production line and I don't think there was much logic applied as to what engine went with which car. I presume the engines were in a rough numerical order when supplied though. Who knows??? To illustrate this two 997 Coopers, car numbers 20 apart. Engine numbers are 375 apart. Just an approximate number would be around 9F/SA/L/12500 |
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| Author: | minijcar [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:40 pm ] |
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The answer is 10371 if we count back from one of my 997's which is one of the first 200 and the next car after the Peter Manton 997. :D |
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| Author: | AJ [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:42 pm ] |
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Also if a car had to be taken off the line for repair or refitting ,the engine number could end up way out of sequence to the cars around it .......and the engines were also fitted to English Coopers , so one shipment can vary quite a bit to the next |
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| Author: | minijcar [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:07 pm ] |
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Happy for someone with an earlier car to offer a better estimate. My estimate has much better odds than tattslotto. 1 in 160 approximately without giving the exact number away. |
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| Author: | AJ [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:34 pm ] |
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minijcar wrote: Happy for someone with an earlier car to offer a better estimate. My estimate has much better odds than tattslotto. 1 in 160 approximately without giving the exact number away.
Its not quite as simple as that ......... you may have been lucky to find a couple of cars with engine numbers in sequence ,but the engine number for car 501 could have been any number out of the batch of engines shipped out ,it may have been the last one out of the shipment or the first one out ,there's no way of telling for sure ,unless it has been documented some where . It may even have come from another batch , completely different number sequence again .... |
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| Author: | wild_willy [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:56 pm ] |
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minijcar wrote: The answer is 10371 if we count back from one of my 997's which is one of the first 200 and the next car after the Peter Manton 997.
 The two examples I provided earlier are real ( I hold the ID plates) derived from Coopers in the first 200's. This shows that you cant just estrapalate the engine numbers from the Car Numbers. |
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| Author: | Goldbrocade_62 [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:09 pm ] |
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My early one is in the 1st 100 if you subtract 501 and it's engine starts at 104** |
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| Author: | winabbey [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:17 pm ] |
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I'm aware of a car with Oz body number in the high 700's, and another in the high 800's, both having engine numbers close together in the 119xx range, in case that helps. |
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| Author: | minijcar [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:56 pm ] |
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Ultimately who cares....... I have a 997 on the road with a 997 engine in it.Not many can say that these days. It's great fun, even after i rolled it at Targa tasmania 10 years ago. My early 997 sat in a chook shed for 20 years and I saved it from disappearing into the ground. I think I will get it on the road as I found it just for something different. It's great to be an anorak to a point, I like the details as much as the next bloke but ultimately enjoy the car's and leave the details lost in the past if that is the reality we face.... |
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