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Author:  _666_ [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Moke roll bar/seatbelt Legalities
will a Moke with no rollbar pass an inspection at a motor registry?

Edit - a 1982 moke
Author:  PDJ [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:02 pm ]
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Yes.
It's not a rollbar. It's a 3 point seatbelt mount. If you have lap belts you're all good.
Author:  Kennomini [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:20 pm ]
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Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?
Author:  Monaco [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:48 pm ]
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Kennomini wrote:
Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?


Yes, if that is how it left the factory - like most non-Californians!
Author:  Timbo [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:20 pm ]
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PDJ wrote:
Yes.
It's not a rollbar. It's a 3 point seatbelt mount...


Why do people always say that?

Tim
Author:  Kennomini [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:15 pm ]
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I guess because that's what it officially was, a way to mount the seat belts and was never designed as a crash/rollover device.... :?
Author:  willy [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:31 pm ]
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Monaco wrote:
Kennomini wrote:
Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?


Yes, if that is how it left the factory - like most non-Californians!


Wrong.
The car has a set of ADRs which relate to it, and it is illegal to decrease the standard of safety of a vehicle - seatbelts included.
Author:  Kennomini [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:43 pm ]
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willy wrote:
Monaco wrote:
Kennomini wrote:
Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?


Yes, if that is how it left the factory - like most non-Californians!


Wrong.
The car has a set of ADRs which relate to it, and it is illegal to decrease the standard of safety of a vehicle - seatbelts included.

Your both right in theory.
If the car came from factory like that then it's still fine. But if the car orgionally had 3 point belts you can not change back to lap belts.

Best bet is to look up the ADR codes on the compliance plate, you have to comply with or better.
Author:  John Smidt [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:50 pm ]
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I am Reasonably sure That the Moke was Registered as a Comercial vechicle
and the ADR's were different to passenger cars, Hence it is rare to find Mokes
after 1978 that has a seating capacity of more than Two
Author:  Wombat [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:27 pm ]
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John Smidt wrote:
I am Reasonably sure That the Moke was Registered as a Comercial vechicle
and the ADR's were different to passenger cars, Hence it is rare to find Mokes
after 1978 that has a seating capacity of more than Two


I believe John is right - Mokes were registered as 2 seater commercial vehicles - two shells I have were ex-rentals from the central coast and have compliance plates certifying then as having been converted to 4 seater

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Author:  Timbo [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:13 pm ]
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Kennomini wrote:
I guess because that's what it officially was, a way to mount the seat belts and was never designed as a crash/rollover device.... :?


Leyland referred to it as a roll bar.

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Tim
Author:  Monaco [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:19 pm ]
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willy wrote:
Monaco wrote:
Kennomini wrote:
Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?


Yes, if that is how it left the factory - like most non-Californians!


Wrong.
The car has a set of ADRs which relate to it, and it is illegal to decrease the standard of safety of a vehicle - seatbelts included.


Right actually.

No one said anything about reducing the spec. Non-Cali mokes only had lap belts. In fact some Cali's did not have roll bars! They had compliance plates with lap belts and that is all that is required today.
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