so today i was trying to install the rear subframe into my moke,

after realising theres 2 different types of hangers and making sure they were round the right way, i persisted at trying to install it


after some time i had one the top front bolt of one side in..

what concerns me is how far out the rear hanger bolt holes are

is this normal? and how do you overcome it ?




Nick

any ideas ?

im stumped..

Are both sides looking the same? If not, check the subframe diagonally, it might be bent.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

i thought they were about the same, but ill have another look tomorrow afternoon when i continue to try and install it

Are the purple bushes from Mini spares. I have them to instal on my mini.

I hope I dont have the same problem,

I would put the rubber bushes back on to see if the problem goes away.

There appears to be little give with those bushes.

Can you use an large screwdriver to align the holes

Kiwiinwgtn

i think i may have found the problem, under further inspection both the front and the rear rear-subframe hangers were these type



but according to the minispares website they were changed for this type in 1976



if you look closely, the face that mounts flush to the body is thicker on the older mounts (long bolt short bolt type) im guessing this is what is giving me this clearance issue..



as my subframe and hangers were from the original body which was a '77

im hoping if i find some later hangers it should work no problems...



yes they are, but for the minute i dont think they are the issue...

I could be wrong but I think my 1978 clubman has the mountings as per your first photo

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1969 Cooper "S"
1967 Mini Deluxe
1973 Clubman Van (the fleet spare)
1978 ex 1275 LS ("Wizard" Eaton Supercharged)
2015 HSV GenF GTS(occasional drive & tow car)
2019 MINI F55 Cooper S

im not sure if thats the problem or not.. however perhaps the mounts are further forward/back to suit depending on the year

can't trust info from a UK website in relation to this sort of stuff, Australian rear subframes probably stayed the same from '60 to '81

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did I tell you that I won a trophy?

Well it has me stumped

Both the aluminum and the steel versions of the long/short mounts are the same according the a local mini shop,

I have no idea what would be causing it to misalign

Put the back ones in and measure the pin to body on the front ones - that'll tell you if there's any bent frames / pins at play.

Ok I'll give that a shot, what should it be ?

They need to be the same. Leave the bushes out and see if the blocks still bolt up - if the pin is hard over to one side you might have an issue.

So did you get them to fit?

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1969 Cooper "S"
1967 Mini Deluxe
1973 Clubman Van (the fleet spare)
1978 ex 1275 LS ("Wizard" Eaton Supercharged)
2015 HSV GenF GTS(occasional drive & tow car)
2019 MINI F55 Cooper S

I did, it was a very tight but me and my friend got there in the end