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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:52 pm 
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Can anyone tell me what is the size of the bolt that holds the top engine steady on the block?

I seem to have lost the one that sits above the clutch side of the engine.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:31 pm 
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5/16th UNF and at a guess it's probably 1-3/4" long


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:01 pm 
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Thanks Matt for the reply

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:09 am 
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While we are on topic of bolt sizes, can anyone tell me what the two sizes for front seat brackets in a 850? (The inside and outside ones are different on mine)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:17 pm 
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mini_mad_matt wrote:
5/16th UNF and at a guess it's probably 1-3/4" long



Possibly 2 and 1/8" long. Pommie cars use HBZ0517 part number.... Are Aus cars the same?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:38 pm 
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Kurross wrote:
While we are on topic of bolt sizes, can anyone tell me what the two sizes for front seat brackets in a 850? (The inside and outside ones are different on mine)

Cheers mark

They were all 1/4" UNF threads when built, perhaps some of yours have since been tapped out to 5/16" or 8mm or whatever..

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:42 pm 
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drmini in aust wrote:
They were all 1/4" UNF threads when built, perhaps some of yours have since been tapped out to 5/16" or 8mm or whatever..


ok thanks for that,

It does make sense, as i need to tap a new thread for one of the brackets (which was a smaller bolt of the two).

Just need to purchase a tapping tool thingo now, should have got it from the fastener place last week when I buying the bolts with wingnuts on them to hold seat to bracket.


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According to Mini parts book PUB1056M the long engine steady bracket bolts are part HBZ513 (850), HBZ515 (997 & 998) and HBZ514 (1098 & 1275). The Mini Clubman parts book PUB1052 also shows HBZ514 for the 1098 & 1275 engines.

HBZ5 means 5/16" UNF hexagon headed screw, zinc plated. The suffixes indicate the length: 13 is 1 5/8", 14 is 1 3/4" and 15 is 1 7/8".

The short bolt at the front of the bracket is HZS506 or 507 (doesn't show the reason for the difference), which is 5/16" UNF hexagon headed screws, zinc plated, 3/4" (06) and 7/8" (07) in length.

The seat bracket bolts in both the Mini and the Clubman parts books are HZS405, which are 1/4" UNF hexagon headed screws, zinc plated, 5/8" long.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:43 pm 
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Awesome info wins bet

Also glad someone else found this thread useful.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:54 pm 
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The short bolt at the front of the engine mount may be different because there is two different outer bracket , one has a spacer between the two metal brackets , longer bolt
the other does not have the spacer , short bolt
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These crossmembers are flimsy.
It is pretty common for the crossmember to crack around the original captive seat bracket nuts.
Where the nut has gone AWOL I have fixed a few by drilling 12mm through front and back, then brazing a 12mm dia bar in there with a 5/16" UNF thread tapped in the front. Drill the brackets to 5/16" for the bigger bolts and it's way stronger than when new.

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