Hi All.



As you can see from the picture, I have a 'magic wand' gear shift - and a nice big hole where I presume there use to be a remote gear shift.

Is it possible to convert from the magic wand to a remote? If so - where would I look for the parts to do this?

I presume the magic wand is simpler - no extra moving parts etc, but I would think the remote shift would be better for driveability?

Thanks, Paul.

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1971 Clubman

You would need a remote type diff housing to replace that 3 synchro 850 style one, a remote extension and a remote type shift shaft that goes up through the diff housing.
Also a remote rear mount, and tunnel bracket.
First off, the diff housings are not `interchangeable' in the normal sense, they were bolted to each gearbox then the case and housing machined together.
So it's not that easy to do- the engine & box has to come out first, then remove diff, bolt the remote housing on with no diff, and measure the alignment and diameter of the bearing bore each side. Depending on what you find the housing could need machining, or the 2 dowels need to be left out, or it's miles out on roundness and you need to try another diff housing, or use 2 gaskets or none, etc.
There is a number cast on the gearbox case near the oil filter, tell us what it is so we can ID it.

If it's an old 3 synchro box I would go find a Mini K/early Clubby 4 synchro remote box and fit that instead, complete with remote..

IMO a remote shift feels better than the magic wand, provided you remove any slack in it from worn parts.
It also locates the engine & box better, as the mount in the tunnel so far away acts as a torque arm & stops it rocking about as magic wands (and rodchange boxes) do.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

It looks like a base model mini clubman YG2S6, built 1971. These had pudding stirrers as standard. Believe all gearboxes at this stage were all syncho boxes.

Bubba

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Nope it's the wrong shifter, those had the puddin' stirrer setup on a remote housing, the pic he gave is 3 synchro 850.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

oh ok, I don't know my wands and pudding stirrers

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It is not the name of the gear lever that makes the difference, Kev would have
seen by the photo that the gear lever is held in place by two bolts holding a metal plate
from the top where as the 4 speed sync and some 3 speed sync boxes had a metal plate
that bolted from underneath to a remote type diff housing,
the set up in this car would not have been fitted at the factory

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You could possibly pick up a new remote case with matching diff cap cheaper than you can machine a miss-maching diff cap to suit. Often they come up cheap, just make sure the internals are all in good order. Just a thought

<edit--- I'll learn to spell one of these days >

I agree but I dunno what box he has, it could be an old 3 synchro, Morris 1100 or Deluxe, with an 850 diff cover.. haha
OP needs to tell us the number on front of box as I asked above ^^^

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Thanks for all of the replies. I haven't found the number on the gearbox case yet.
I thought the engine was a 998 from the engine number (9YA|Ta|H7564)
I'll have another look for the number on the gearbox tonight.

Here is a pic i took last night of the gear shift from under the car.


Looks like I am missing some sort of cover.

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1971 Clubman

That is an 850 diff housing, the motor is a 998 Mini deluxe, I'd guess someone has shoved the housing onto the original remote shift box.
Yes you are missing a tin cover that goes there, it keeps the grease? in and the road crud out.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Thanks again.

I'm still trying to understand what I have. Is it a a 998 engine, gearbox & diff with a 850 diff housing?

If so - then from what phat kat said I would need to look for a 998 diff housing with remote gear shift.
Where would I be best looking? ausmini for sale, ebay?

The machining option seems beyond my skill level.

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1971 Clubman

I would leave it as is until the gearbox has problems. Then find a Mini K 4 synchro box (which are remote) and fit that, complete with diff housing and remote extension.
They are a stronger box, easier to get parts for, and you get synchro on 1st gear, unlike the one you (probably) have.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Does the gearbox behave as it has synchro on 1st?

Judging by the remnants of dark green paint in the pictures it's history would be 850!

And if it is a 3 synchro then it would be highly likely an 850.

Dave

Thanks all for the knowledgeable replies. I'm learning that buying a older car with an unknown history is always a challenge to understand what exactly you have.

I will be leaving it as is. FWIW the number stamped behind the oil filter is 22A363

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1971 Clubman

Gawd, that is an old cone synchro (which doesn't work!) 850 box! No synchro on 1st with those! Most parts NLA now.

Best kept in a museum...

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.