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 Post subject: Cooper 'S' ??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:07 pm 
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What is this ?? looks a bit of a bitza ,a few mistakes also on the brand new ID Plate .....


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1966-MORRIS- ... _173wt_958

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 Post subject: Re: Cooper 'S' ??
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I have no idea , but the identification plate looks really new

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the engine number on the block is only 2 numbers off mine (!)

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What is this ?? looks a bit of a bitza ,a few mistakes also on the brand new ID Plate .....


other than the car number and engine number stamped from the back, what do you see that's wrong with the plate?

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 Post subject: Re: Cooper 'S' ??
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simon k wrote:
the engine number on the block is only 2 numbers off mine (!)

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What is this ?? looks a bit of a bitza ,a few mistakes also on the brand new ID Plate .....


other than the car number and engine number stamped from the back, what do you see that's wrong with the plate?


Also engine number should have a small 'a' in prefix on plate, it also appears to be mounted in wrong place and is crooked

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 Post subject: Re: Cooper 'S' ??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:53 pm 
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[quote="simon k"]the engine number on the block is only 2 numbers off mine (!)

Well its been re-listed ,so now is your chance ....... :D

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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1966-MORRIS-MINI-COOPER-S-/251373845435?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item3a870c7bbb

I had literally just copied that link to say the same thing! Plate looks SOOOOO shiny and new! as do the engine numbers...

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The ID plate on my Mk1 Black S has all the details, including the car number and engine number, stamped from the back of the plate, it was a special order, and I know it's history from new. Maybe this one was also a special order??

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 Post subject: Re: Cooper 'S' ??
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I know the seller, I've never had a good look at the car myself but someone I know helped with the original purchase and identified the car as genuine ....but of course anyone interested should make their own assessment.

I think the plate was missing so a new one was made up with the correct details once they knew the car was genuine. At the end of the day it's just an ID plate. It's the last thing I look at if ID'ing a genuine Cooper S.

I do know the car has had quite a bit of work done at MiniKing to get it ready for Rego, so would be mechanically sound I believe. Would make a good project.

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Interestingly, the engine numbers for the 10 or so vehicles before and after this chassis number in the Cooper S register all begin with 40xxx. Engines weren't installed in sequence but a difference of 2,000 means this car stands out from the others in the list. Perhaps the assumed engine number used to create the new plate as mentioned by Phill above is wrong. Build date for that chassis number is Sept 1966.

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 Post subject: Re: Cooper 'S' ??
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winabbey wrote:
Interestingly, the engine numbers for the 10 or so vehicles before and after this chassis number in the Cooper S register all begin with 40xxx. Engines weren't installed in sequence but a difference of 2,000 means this car stands out from the others in the list. Perhaps the assumed engine number used to create the new plate as mentioned by Phill above is wrong. Build date for that chassis number is Sept 1966.


On a register I have there are a few that are way out of sequence, I remember someone suggesting a possible explanation being that if a problem was discovered with the motor very early in the cars life eg on or even before delivery to the dealer, and a replacement motor was fitted, then the factory would produce a fresh new plate for the car.

This could also explain the stamping all from behind in the case mentioned by justminis with his Black S. If the factory made a fresh plate they would just stamp the lot at once with the same punch machine.

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