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Author:  Bennjamin [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  How to remove door mirrors and legalities ?(NSW)
Hey everyone
I'd thought I would run this past here for any hints and tips

On the mini I have two crap bullet style concaved mirrors which I'd like removed - I believe it's via internally.
Is there a write up or a general DIY on how to do so that anyone has a link to?



Also, does anyone know the legalities for how many mirrors you must run- on a 74 ?
Ideally I'd like just a single clamp on spotter.

Thanks for your time
Author:  Timbo [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to remove door mirrors and legalities ?(NSW)
Bullet style mirrors weren't factory fitted, so its anyone's guess as to how they have been mounted. The factory ones have a metal plate screwed to the door skin, then the foot of the mirror clips over it from the outside and is held in place by a small grub screw concealed where the arm pivots. Have a good look to see if you can find something similar on yours, otherwise you'll have to pull the door trims out and look up inside the door.

Tim
Author:  Thorlek [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to remove door mirrors and legalities ?(NSW)
Bennjamin wrote:
Also, does anyone know the legalities for how many mirrors you must run- on a 74 ?
Ideally I'd like just a single clamp on spotter.


I just had my mini roadworthyed in Victoria, all it had was an interior rear vision mirror and it passed without an issue***
on the vic roads website there is a document which lists all the "basic" roadworthy requirements for things like mirrors, seat belts, etc

You should be able to find the same sort of thing out if you have a look at the RTA website (are they called the RTA in nsw still?)

***EDIT: I had best update this post.... I got a call from the place doing the roadworthy on my car, and after having it for a week waiting for a couple of bits to arrive before it passed the roadworthy, they also decided it needed the drivers side mirror before it could pass.
I already had the mirror, it just wasn't on the car, all good now, i dropped the mirror off at lunch time and i'm picking the car up with the completed roadworthy tonight.
So yes, it appears you need a drivers side mirror on a 75 mini...
Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to remove door mirrors and legalities ?(NSW)
In NSW, RTA is now RMS.
Early cars an external mirror was an option, my 1970 Matic had none when bought. It now has 1 Tex Rover style one, I'm considering fitting another.
There would be an ADR for when they became mandatory but I dunno when it was. Mid 70s?
Author:  timmy201 [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to remove door mirrors and legalities ?(NSW)
The only page I can see mentioning a year is this one:
http://www.elevenhundred.com/morris1500/rules.php

You'll be looking for ADR 14

Edit: ADR second edition says after 1972 you must have a rear and drivers mirror
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... _adrs.aspx
This has specifics on mounting and types allowed:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... pdf/14.pdf
Author:  peterb [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to remove door mirrors and legalities ?(NSW)
If it didn't come out with it you don't need to have one UNLESS it's a van, wagon or sedan with obscured vision internally. i.e. Blanked out or heavily tinted windows, internal barriers etc
Author:  Bubbacluby [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to remove door mirrors and legalities ?(NSW)
Side mirrors became legal in 72. Copper trying telling me I needed one in my 12/71 mini :) as for how many are required and when I dont know.


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