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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:58 pm 
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Would love any period photographs of the engine bay to determine what are the correct fittings, and where they fit, for a 1968 Mk 1 Cooper S.

Am starting a restoration, and would like to get it right.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:53 pm 
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Depending how fussy you are it's hard to find pics of later (say 67 68 69) Mk 1's. I have a collection of old car mags but of course most road reviews and photos of the Cooper S are very early cars.

Below are some pics of a pretty accurate restored late 68 engine bay. Only things that I think are not quite right is that the type of starter solenoid is correct but upside down and I believe later cars they painted the water pump pulley black but the fan was still yellow.

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Theres a good colour photo of a late 1967 Cooper S engine bay in an excellent 1968 brochure that Brett has shared in the brochure section of the forum here.... http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=84039

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....note that bmc had a habit of painting right over everything when the engines where painted new, including the oil filler cap!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:03 am 
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Brilliant, thank you :D


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Is that the horn mounted to the front top of the apron panel? Behind the grille? With the two bolts?

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In the first pic. with regards to the voltage reg box location is that correct?

you can see the plastic nuts in the inner guard to take self tapping screws near the booster as per my early 850, was this done at factory due to the fitting of the booster? i guess the used the same panel for all years.....


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Boostedmini wrote:
In the first pic. with regards to the voltage reg box location is that correct?

you can see the plastic nuts in the inner guard to take self tapping screws near the booster as per my early 850, was this done at factory due to the fitting of the booster? i guess the used the same panel for all years.....


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Yes, the Cooper S with generator had the voltage regulator mounted on its side, as shown. We had a 1968 one.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:00 pm 
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Hanra, yes, with purple wires.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:02 pm 
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The voltage regulator interferes with the brake booster if fitted on the guard where the plastic inserts are and it has to be mounted on its side so that it doesn't touch the hydro hose. Its mounted with self tappers into the side of the inner guard. No plastic inserts used here.
The heater valve should be the square ended one as in the brochure pic. There may be some NOS available somewhere. Some of the round ended type work opposite to the correct "Push" for heater. You have to "Pull" for heater.
The starter solenoid as mentioned is mounted upside down. There are at least 3 different types of these. The original round one in the brochure pic on early cars was changed to the square bodied one when Lucas Australia parts were used. This type also had a red/orange rubber cover over the end of the solenoid so you could activate the solenoid as per the early round UK type. Later ones did away with the rubber cover so you can't operate the solenoid.
Plug leads look right. ignition coil looks right. Should be a HA12 type and should have the full rubber boot over the HT lead and the LT terminals. Water pump pulley should be black as mentioned.
Heater hose clamps should be the wire type as used on the fuel hoses.
Top and bottom radiator hose clamps should be the utilux type.
The brake booster hose should have an embossed diamond pattern on the outside. The join in the booster vacuum tank clamp needs to be at the bottom so water can drain away. There are at least 2 colours of zinc passivation on the booster vaccum tank halves. Early cars had a bluish/silver colour and later cars had a more of a silver colour with just a hint of gold. I had mine replated but it is now too gold.
Later cars didn't get the master cylinder plastic filler extensions. It made it a PIA to top them up.
Horn mounting is correct. You can't mount it underneath because the wiring loom runs under the top of the bonnet opening panel.
Another little gem. Later cars didn't have the rubber draft flaps on the door drain holes. Early cars had a rubber flap held in place with a steel plate and self tapper. The holes for the self tapper are still there next to the drain hole.
This is all river counter type stuff as the original type of many parts are no longer available. The manufacturers have long disappeared or gone to other parts of the world.

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The brake booster cylinder was never painted black. It was left unpainted. Mine never had the "Coopers" transfer on the air cleaner box. I don't know if this was normal by then or mine was just missed out.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:12 pm 
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Squadron blue or close to it =D for the car colour, seem to be seeing more in that colour seeing as my leyland is the same colour. shame my engine bay isn't half as clean as those.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:38 pm 
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Nice engine bay

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Slightly off topic, but which of the air boxes came with the cutout on the back corner?

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Mk2 cooper s

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:50 am 
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IIRC the air cleaner box with cut off corner dates to the change in brake m/c to the plastic tank type. On LHD cars the plastic tank would have hit the air cleaner box without the cut off corner.

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It was around the time of the introduction of the dual circuit master cylinder in some overseas markets. (The Austin America in the USA)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:29 am 
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Hobson wrote:
Squadron blue or close to it =D for the car colour, seem to be seeing more in that colour seeing as my leyland is the same colour. shame my engine bay isn't half as clean as those.


Pretty sure it's Indigo Blue (late 60's), a little darker than it appears in the photos. It is similar to Squadron I think just a little darker.

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