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 Post subject: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:46 pm 
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Hi all,
Just wondering has anybody replaced the tail/indicator globes with LED clusters. Do's and don'ts? What is best? where to get?

Any info would be great.

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:29 pm 
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I plan on doing this.

Im just looking on ebay for the bulbs with the most area covered with smd led's. they are the better/brighter type im lead to believe.

Like this one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390639480710 ... 1438.l2649

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:34 pm 
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Don't you need dual filament bulbs for the rear? Price gets serious!

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_trks ... &_from=R40

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:41 pm 
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BAY15D means dual filament. They have the offset pins and the dual contact. BA15S is the single filament/no pin offset ones.
BA= bayonet Y = offset pins 15=size D/S= dual or single contact :wink:

Heaps of them (from china) for around $5 each.

But if you think that other one is expensive Mick, I priced some thru my work from autotechnica. Even with my discount, they were still over $40 each!!! :shock: they obviously don't sell many of those. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:48 pm 
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I have fitted the Mini Mania full LED boards to mine. The board covers the entire blinker, tail light area of the light (removed the divider). Much better than the LED 'bulbs' that you can buy but were very expensive.
Not too sure if they still sell them. Try a search.

EDIT: They were only available for three screw Morris minis.

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
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Sorry for the thread hi-jack!
Hmm I like this idea!!
Anyone know what would fit a 77 model?
Any changes needed to be made to wiring?

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:51 pm 
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MrFail wrote:
BAY15D means dual filament. They have the offset pins and the dual contact. BA15S is the single filament/no pin offset ones.
BA= bayonet Y = offset pins 15=size D/S= dual or single contact :wink:

Heaps of them (from china) for around $5 each.

But if you think that other one is expensive Mick, I priced some thru my work from autotechnica. Even with my discount, they were still over $40 each!!! :shock: they obviously don't sell many of those. :lol:


Ah ok,

The images are single and the description dsoesn't mention a second level...

Let me know how they go, for the price its comparable to buying incandescents on their own....

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:17 pm 
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https://www.spiyda.com/magento/index.php/led-vehicle-lights/individual-lights.html

An English guy making mini light panels for various mini models....
may not suit Australian Clubman with our Orange reverse light...

(and no idea about ADRs)


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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:04 pm 
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TweedGrey wrote:
Is it possible to remove my 2 x screw tail lights and replace them with 3 x screw tail lights and then use the LED replacements from Spiyda or MiniMania or the like??? Or is it a major change beyond simply reinstalling??

Scotty

Yes the holes in the body are identical, Australia went to the 2 screw lens lamps (made here by Lucas Aust) to get the local content up.

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
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Mick wrote:
MrFail wrote:
BAY15D means dual filament. They have the offset pins and the dual contact. BA15S is the single filament/no pin offset ones.
BA= bayonet Y = offset pins 15=size D/S= dual or single contact :wink:

Heaps of them (from china) for around $5 each.

But if you think that other one is expensive Mick, I priced some thru my work from autotechnica. Even with my discount, they were still over $40 each!!! :shock: they obviously don't sell many of those. :lol:


Ah ok,

The images are single and the description dsoesn't mention a second level...

Let me know how they go, for the price its comparable to buying incandescents on their own....


Yea, I noticed that too. But I would think they must have two levels. I will buy a couple in a few weeks and report back.

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:35 pm 
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just be sure they shine brighter for brakes, some the globe changes colour red for lights then change to white to make it brighter for braking, some even flash when brakes are applied but i doubt there legal. red LEDS work best in red lenses as well as orange leds work better in orange lens

this is how most LED's work in brake lights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nMoyg479Dw

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:18 am 
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Hi, Ive just upgraded ALL my globes to LED.

Got them from ebay from various places for approx $5ea landed. They do look good!

Because I replaced all my indicator globes with LEDS my electronic flasher can didn't like it so I made myself a PIC Micro based Flasher Module. I built in a special Hazard light flash pattern aswell ;)

From Ebay I ended up getting:
16 LED BAY15D's to replace my 21w/5w globes for my stop/tail
16 LED BA15S's to replace my 21w globes for my indicators front and rear and reverse lights
8LED BA9's for the park lights at the front
Also bought pack of 10 T10 LED wedges for my triple guage instrument cluster

Ive got some photos if i can dig them out

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:01 am 
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MrFail wrote:
I plan on doing this.

Im just looking on ebay for the bulbs with the most area covered with smd led's. they are the better/brighter type im lead to believe.

Like this one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390639480710 ... 1438.l2649


SMD just means surface mount device; as opposed to radial which have the two little legs.
They are no better or brighter* and even then there are dozens of different surface mount packages for LEDs.

The ones to go for are PLCC SMD LEDs which are usually square and have a tiny lens built into the package but are more expensive.
The cheap ones are just 0X0X i.e. 3050 packages which aren't designed for brightness like we need in tail lights but are CHEAP.
By comparison one PLCC LED would be brighter than a dozen 0X0X LEDs.
Having said that get a good brand, Luxeon Phillips etc, LEDs are delicate and cheap ones are prone to failure.

Of course all of that is moot since no one seems to show what brand they use but you DO get what you pay for.
Whats everyone doing re flasher cans, is there an LED compatible flasher that would suit a mini?


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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:54 am 
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RE; Flasher unit. I just used an electronic flasher unit, works fine.

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 Post subject: Re: LED tail Lights
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:08 pm 
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TK wrote:
RE; Flasher unit. I just used an electronic flasher unit, works fine.


When I changed both front and back globes to led it wouldnt even fire up. Maybe I had a faulty flasher but I was under the impresion that flashers needed to see approx 21w of load to flash properly. But it gave me an excuse to put in a custom hazard flash pattern :)

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