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Author:  ClintW [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:56 am ]
Post subject:  How can the BMC paint tint be converted to a usable formula
I went my local automotive paint supplier and gave them the BMC paint code I obtained from the old paint charts but they could not use it to mix up the right cour colour. Anyone got any answers as to how it can be achieved? I want to paint my Morris 1100 in Smoke grey and Old English white.
Author:  womble99 [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How can the BMC paint tint be converted to a usable form
They can be converted in the lab by some of the paint companies on request. They can research the old tinter information and produce a new formula using their own current tinters. I know most of the BMC colors have been done by protec over the years as they are in their computer system, however some are still missing from the later lists (2k for example) but are listed under the older but no longer used lead based paint.
Author:  Thorlek [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:16 am ]
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When i wanted the Leyland Hairy Lime color for my Clubby I just went into my local and asked.

He said.. "is that an original mini color?" I said yep.... and he said "no worries... lemme go get the book"

so maybe you need to find a guy with a better range of books!
Author:  Goldbrocade_62 [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:31 am ]
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I've had no troubles with colours I had mixed
Author:  phillb [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How can the BMC paint tint be converted to a usable form
It's been explained to me that using the old codes will not give an exact match because over the decades the tint used have changed. How much of a discrepancy I'm not sure.

A more accurate method is to have the paint scanned either off an original car or using an unfaded area on the car. Even using this method a few test mixes are required to get a perfect match.

Perhaps someone knowledgable in car paints can explain further.
Author:  womble99 [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:29 pm ]
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Depends on what you are trying to do, if you are repainting panels you will never get a match straight from the machine. If you are repainting the whole car the match isn't as critical, but you will never get the true original color using modern materials but we can get close.

Let's be honest here some of these colors haven't been used for half a century
Author:  1071 S [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:28 pm ]
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Did any Oz cars come in Smoke Grey?? ... or OEW??

Luckilly when my S was repainted they left the inside of the dash alone so I have something to match,

Cheers, Ian
Author:  ClintW [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How can the BMC paint tint be converted to a usable form
Thanks for the informative replies. The supplier has requested BASF to see what they can come up with. The car was white originally but was repainted lime green. I was going to reprint it the original colour but I really like the smoke grey/ OEW of the MG 1100. It doesn't matter if the colour is not exact. If I get fairly close I'll be happy.
Author:  Goldbrocade_62 [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:19 pm ]
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Just to confuse there are two smoke greys a English and Aussie one ours is a true grey and the UK one is a bluey grey in my berger paint book OEW and Nurberg white are the same tinters and quantities they are both a creamy white
Author:  ClintW [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How can the BMC paint tint be converted to a usable form
That is very important information indeed. Thank you. I think this task is going to be difficult but with some guidance I think I'll get there.
Author:  Mokesta [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How can the BMC paint tint be converted to a usable form
My 850 was originally smoke grey.
Author:  Timbo [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How can the BMC paint tint be converted to a usable form
I've just been out to the local automotive paint supplier. He was able to pull OEW (which is a UK BMC colour) off the computer with no problems. He also had an ICI book that appeared to list all of the BMC Australia colours, from the sixties through to the end. He said he could mix any of them too.

I got a pressure pack of OEW and one of Silver Birch Metallic. Admittedly I still need to try them, but the bit sprayed inside the lids looks like a good match.

Incidentally, according to some of the UK forums, OEW is identical to BMW/MINI pepper white, which kind of makes sense. Its a fairly creamy white.

Tim
Author:  Aussie Brian [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:35 pm ]
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Timbo wrote:

Incidentally, according to some of the UK forums, OEW is identical to BMW/MINI pepper white, which kind of makes sense. Its a fairly creamy white.

Tim


Tim I had a small can of OEW made up just to check the colour and found it to be to pinky, as it turns out there are many variants on OEW the one I ended up with was jaguar. Oh well :?
Author:  winabbey [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How can the BMC paint tint be converted to a usable form
1071 S wrote:
Did any Oz cars come in Smoke Grey?? ... or OEW??

No, unless they are fully imported complete cars.

Here's a list of the Australian colours - viewtopic.php?f=25&t=66469
Author:  Timbo [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:04 pm ]
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I believe that there was at least two shades of OEW used by BMC in the '60s. Other manufacturers had their own variants with the same name. Interestingly the paint I got today is labeled Leyland Old English White 1958-71 so they don't seem to think there's a difference.

I'll compare it to a small area of unfaded original paint and a paint swatch from 1960 I have.

Tim
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