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| Author: | goodie [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Engine Identification |
I had a mini engine given to me today ,( it had been in a buggy prior ) had a quick look in Mini Kingdom book , couldn't find the No; Here are the details; Engine No: 1010/1133 Head No's: 12A145 (inside tappet cover) 12M4 (outside on end of head) Gearbox No: 10/1687 Dizzy No: lucas 45D4 ---4374 I'll check a couple of other books in the meantime , but can any of the usual Guru's shed some light on what size it is and what it may have came out of ? , here's some pics ;  
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
By the look of it it came out of a river. |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
It looks like a bitza! Leyland Mini, Mini Van and Mini S engine around late 73 up till March 74, should have rod change shift, pot joints, a 3.44 diff and a HS2 carby. (wrong carby and wrong driveshafts!) |
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| Author: | goodie [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
Hey Morris , yeah , ya sorta close , not out of a river , but under a tree on a farm , for god knows how long  , surprisingly it still turns over by hand  .I was told about it a couple of months and thought i'd better go and have a look at it , considering he was giving it away , you never know what it could of been . Curious to know what capacity it is , with 1010 prefix it would be a 998 wouldn't it ? I was intrigued when i seen the steel flanges . |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
Sorry, I meant to say it is an 1100 (1098cc = 10 on the prefix) |
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| Author: | goodie [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
Morris 1100 wrote: Sorry, I meant to say it is an 1100 (1098cc = 10 on the prefix) That's even better , i've got a couple of 1100 cranks & rods here , i'm thinking of putting an 1100 crank & rods in the van motor , ( currently 998 ) so that i can keep the original engine No with the van so that'll give me a few to crack test and maybe end up with one good one . |
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| Author: | John Smidt [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
Hi Goodie The engine appears to have a Morris 1100 engine plate that has the ends cut off, The steel uni gear box could very well have come from a Mini Moke If You pull it down the diff ratio will be a good indicator. Cheers John |
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| Author: | goodie [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
G'day John , how are you mate , yeah i hadn't noticed the plate , good spotting , i'll have another look at it . It has a modified / butchered rod setup on it going into the back of the gearbox , obviously something they done to make it work in the buggy that it came out of . Does anyone have a pic of a Moke diff area that they can put up , do they look the same as say a pot joint type seeing as the gear stick setup is different , i don't know what they look like , that's why i'm asking . John , do the No's on the front of the box indicate anything about the internals of the box ? |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
Some Mokes of the early 70s had Hardy Spicer output shafts and a 4 synchro remote box with a `puddin stirrer' gearlever attached underneath by a tin plate. That box looks to have `rubber uni' output shafts with Hardy Spicer drive flanges on it, held with castle nuts. I have seen these once before but think they were aftermarket flanges? I may be wrong here, never owned a Moke that vintage. |
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| Author: | goodie [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
John Smidt wrote: Hi Goodie The engine appears to have a Morris 1100 engine plate that has the ends cut off, Cheers John Had a look at the engine plate and sure enough it looks like it has been cut off with a grinder , it has a rough finish , not tidy like you would expect from the factory . |
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| Author: | John Smidt [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine Identification |
goodie wrote: G'day John , how are you mate , yeah i hadn't noticed the plate , good spotting , i'll have another look at it . It has a modified / butchered rod setup on it going into the back of the gearbox , obviously something they done to make it work in the buggy that it came out of . Does anyone have a pic of a Moke diff area that they can put up , do they look the same as say a pot joint type seeing as the gear stick setup is different , i don't know what they look like , that's why i'm asking . John , do the No's on the front of the box indicate anything about the internals of the box ? I am Going well Thanks Goodie, The Rod change Moke gearbox looks the same as a mini Clubman from the rear, the rods are shorter than the clubman, on both model rod change Moke gearbox's what this means is you can fit a motor assembly out of a Moke into a Clubman and or a Clubman into a Moke so long as you use the correct gear change Assembly. I must point out that The MOKE has a different final drive ratio to the Clubman, apart from the different final drive ratio there is no major problems with an engine swap. Despite what some people may think some Mokes were fitted with a rod change gearbox and steel Universals, Re the Numbers on the front of the gearbox, The numbers cast into the gearbox will help in some areas but Not with the final drive ratios |
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