What's standard? I have a 03/70 Cooper S which has no cut out on the parcel shelf and a 09/70 Mini K which has the cutout looks factory. In one of the Ausmini resto blogs I noticed a 69 Cooper S which had the speaker cutout
Confused.
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| Author: | Darrell [ Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
What's standard? I have a 03/70 Cooper S which has no cut out on the parcel shelf and a 09/70 Mini K which has the cutout looks factory. In one of the Ausmini resto blogs I noticed a 69 Cooper S which had the speaker cutout Confused.
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| Author: | peterb [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
I don't really know but could it be to do with where the body parts were made? Australia or UK. Could a radio be ordered from factory or were they dealer fitted? |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
By the late `60s all body panels were made here, not UK. I can't remember if my 1970 `Matic had a factory speaker hole 25 years ago, as it has two 6" holes in there now. |
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| Author: | Flute [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
My late 68 S has the speaker holes hacked into it so they mustn't have been there already. Now I need to find a replacement parcel shelf without the holes or try and get them repaired. |
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| Author: | Darrell [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Could it be that the MK2 S never had the cutout due to the insulation material that was fitted under the shelf, they were obviously concerned about cabin noise, would think that the hole would increase that noise factor in the cabin. |
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| Author: | Darrell [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Flute I have the 70 K shelf with the factory oval speaker cutout on the N/S in excellent condition you are welcome to it but i will have to cut it out if you want it. I'm in East Gippsland coud get it to Melb's East. |
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| Author: | Mick [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Darrell wrote: Could it be that the MK2 S never had the cutout due to the insulation material that was fitted under the shelf, they were obviously concerned about cabin noise, would think that the hole would increase that noise factor in the cabin. There was nothing special about the S body, apart from the few altered details throughout the car (Obvious or not) which did not need a specifically custom panel as a base. So the panels are shared. |
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| Author: | Darrell [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Thanks Mick, but I go back to my original question why has my matching number March 1970 Cooper S have no speaker cutout and my October 1970 Mini K have a speaker cutout both have the original parcel shelf. Could this just be the idiosyncrasy of BMC Aust'. |
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| Author: | Timinik [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Are you sure it wasn't someone else has cut the hole? |
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| Author: | Darrell [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Back then the Astor Diamond dot radio was a BMC dealer offered accessory which was supplied with a single (no stereo back then) oval 9x5 inch or there about's speaker so one would assume the hole to be factory. |
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| Author: | Mick [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
I can't say Darrell. There must have been a changeover in 69. I'm not sure when. |
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| Author: | awdmoke [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Our 1970 "burstproof" K has the single speaker oval hole. |
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| Author: | winabbey [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
My unmolested September 1970 MK II S has one small hole (approx. 4 cm) pressed from above in the centre of the rear parcel shelf - no speaker hole. The BMC Australia engineering drawing for the Cooper S parcel shelf shows an oval hole on the driver's side with four small holes to attach a speaker. It's not clear when this was introduced. There is a different part number for the S parcel shelf because it has the tabs for the fuel tank breather pipes spot-welded under it. The end result may be that a shelf with the speaker hole was able to be introduced on non-S vehicles earlier because there was still stock of the S version (without the hole) waiting to be used up. This would create a staggered implementation into production. One thing is for sure. There was no speaker hole in the van rear parcel shelf. 
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| Author: | Flute [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Thanks for the offer Darrell, very kind but I want mine without any speakers ie. back closer to original. Doug mentioned the tabs too which I forgot about so unless I find an S one it will be better to repair mine. Cheers. |
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| Author: | Darrell [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rear Parcel Shelf Radio Speaker Cut out |
Thanks winabbey that's exactly what I have one hole in the middle was getting worried thinking the worst as one does can sleep tight tonite. Sorry Flute forgot about the breather tags. |
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