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 Post subject: HIF44 - wrong?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:13 pm 
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Hi guys

Just wondering if you could shed some light as to what is up with this HIF44 I bought recently from 8450jon on ebay?
It was listed to suit Mini - but doesn't look like the linkages are right.

The choke and throttle linkages just don't seem right at all.
The casting looks wrong on the side too. Screw adjustments and take-offs like no other Mini HIF44 I have seen.
Any help appreciated.

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Cheers
Will


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 Post subject: Re: HIF44 - wrong?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:41 pm 
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They come in a variety of set ups. I have a correct one from an MG Metro engine in the Moke and another in a box. The spare has the butterfly turning in the opposite direction but both linkages on the same side as your photo. I had to make up a cable bracket to suit. The abutment plates available just didn't work. Looks like yours is different again and you will need to do some fabrication.

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 Post subject: Re: HIF44 - wrong?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:58 am 
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 Post subject: Re: HIF44 - wrong?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:56 am 
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Hiya,
the one I had on my clubby was very similar, I'll try and upload a photo from my phone.
I have other hifs that are different again.
As mokesta said, it is a case of bracketry.
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 Post subject: Re: HIF44 - wrong?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:49 am 
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Yuck. Might get on the hunt for something that will be far more of a 'bolt on' solution.

Cheers for the input fellas :)


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 Post subject: Re: HIF44 - wrong?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:14 pm 
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willy,

I just went to the shed to double check. Turns out my spare HIF44 is similar to yours. Mine came with a weird throttle linkage that looked like it suited a twin set-up. To replace it I had to rob one from a HS4 carby I had. I don't think I filed out the shaft hole to position it. I just put up with it being at slightly the wrong angle.

Here it is with the extra linkage (dirty one)
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Closer look.
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I think I can see that yours already has a link like this so you just needs the cable holder.

Then I got one of these from an HS4
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Cut bits off it and welded it to a bit of steel from an old shelf
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So it looks like this assembled
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Choke cable goes in like this (but mine doesn't have the clamp yet)
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You can see that my accelerator link sits a bit low so it doesn't have the best geometry compared to the cable holder. Yours is turned a bit more upward so should have a better action.

I hope this helps.

M


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 Post subject: Re: HIF44 - wrong?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:37 pm 
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Mokesta - your images are absolutely sensational and give me a much better understanding of how I could make this work... and I think I might just do that!

Interesting to see the choke cable position. Not fantastic for a Mini, but again I think I could make it work.

Thanks a million for the images.


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