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 Post subject: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:17 am 
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My smiths speedo (1979) has Sykes clocking the odometer, it's stopped at 799,999. Is there anywhere that deals with smiths clocks in sydney?

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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:10 am 
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Howard's, they've been around a while. Have you thought about looking at it yourself?


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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 8:45 am 
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Where and who is Howard's? I've taken it apart once, rather not again!

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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:00 am 
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http://www.howardinstruments.com.au/

I agree with your comment, the few I've taken apart are still that way. :cry:
"When the going gets tough, pay someone (that knows what they are doing) to fix it".

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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:20 am 
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Is there no one in Sydney at all?

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Don't have there contact details any more , but I think he did advertise in the BMC experience
Someone must have copies laying around ( Goodie ? )


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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:49 am 
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Just post it to them, the post would be less than fuel.


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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:51 am 
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Dubguy wrote:
Is there no one in Sydney at all?


http://www.attspeedautoinstruments.com/ in St Marys.

I've not used them, but they are still trading.

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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:32 pm 
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You can try these guys....

http://manlyautoinstrumentrepairs.com.au/

Jason reco'd my speedo a few years ago. Was a good job.

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 6:48 pm 
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I restored mine myself after reading this article. They are not that hard to do.
http://obswww.unige.ch/~wildif/cars/doc ... repair.pdf


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:27 am 
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After reading that article, I think my recent 200KMH S speedo with only 20,000km up is suffering from bar magnet's loss of strength. It consistently reads 15kmh low now. Was accurate when first fitted, but got progressively worse.
The thread broke off the back where the cable goes on too. It would probably cost more to fix it than a new speedo would. :(
Good for spares....

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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
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drmini in aust wrote:
After reading that article, I think my recent 200KMH S speedo with only 20,000km up is suffering from bar magnet's loss of strength. It consistently reads 15kmh low now. Was accurate when first fitted, but got progressively worse.
The thread broke off the back where the cable goes on too. It would probably cost more to fix it than a new speedo would. :(
Good for spares....


Still busy with a grieving relative Doc...but will come visit some time...don't throw it in the shed or on the bench where it can pick up iron filings etc

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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:59 pm 
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Thanks for all the replys, il read the article and give it a go.

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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:01 am 
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I understand that car enthusiasts like to try repairs for themselves.
Please post your questions and I will try to help you through.
There are only a few Instrument repair shopfronts left in Sydney.
General Auto and Applied Instruments.
Not sure if they play with old stuff very much. Call and ask.
Manly now operates from home, Attspeed I'm not sure, Southern no, KTT retired, Olympic closed.
The odometer is something you can attempt yourself. It's all about time and attention to detail.sometimes there are parts required eg: eccentric gear, pawl etc
The speed side is a little more tricky and for this you will require a two pole magnet to charge and another magnet to trim. Parts are also more specific. A tester to run the speedo up to at least 60 mph is also required to accurately check the span. Smiths speedos can be set up to be to be more accurate than the speedo in your modern car or your GPS. A drill will in most cases not get you to 60 and there is the issue of not knowing what the number of revolutions is... 1280-1312 for a 3.44 diff is the starting point.
Unfortunately we don't have the ability to offer the sale of individual service parts but I hope this helps
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 Post subject: Re: Smiths odomoter
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:40 am 
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Great advice. I limit myself to cleaning, lubing and maybe the odd easy fix. Anything more than that, its someone else's job, not because its too hard, more the time thing. You spend half the day on it and its still not right or no better at all. I've probably had a go at a dozen or so 'old type' speedos and all but a couple were just rubbish build up inside.
Dubguy, have a go, whats the worst that can happen?


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