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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:20 pm 
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I have a problem with the tyres on one of my mini,s?
The car is on historic plates and doesn't get driven very often and I now have a problem with the tyres having a flat spot where they have been sitting for a few months.
Tyres are Dunlop R, probably 5 years old and have been ok up until this winter, but when I took the car for an outing last weekend they were not happy. Bad vibration and when I checked the tyres by jacking the car up and spinning them they all have a small flat section about 1 to 2 mm.
What do other people do with storing cars for months without driving?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:35 pm 
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it'd seem like sitting the car on blocks when not in use would be the only way around it, unless you had some old wheels & tyres for storage....

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:38 am 
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I wonder whether taking the car for a good long drive to get some heat into the tyres
would get the flat spot out of the tyres :idea: .


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:42 am 
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This was once common, back when radial tyres started, their textile bands were nylon. Steel belted radials sorted it out.
But, I have bought 2 sets of steel belted radials over the years that were MADE with flat spots. One set was 13" Avons, the other 10" Yokohama A008. You cannot effectively balance this problem out, the axle hubs will drop and raise once per wheel revolution regardless.
Are the wheels steel or alloy? Steel wheels were seldom dead round, one reason I now run Contessas instead.

Surely, the little flats you have would disappear as the tyre warms up in use? They usually do.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:09 am 
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My car sits for years on end and has Dunlop D01J Formula R's on it. Cant say Ive ever had an issue like this?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:32 am 
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This happens to the tyres on my dads boat trailer (dual drop axles with 10" wheels) at the start of most summers.
One trip to the boat ramp and they are usually back to round.
He has been able to mitigate it buy moving the trailer once a month or so during winter so that the wheels move a quarter turn or so and change the contact patch.

You could try those garage trolleys, some of them have rounded out bases for the tyres to sit on.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:43 am 
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What pressure are you running in your tyres? This problem can be exaggerated with lower tyre pressures (i.e. < 30psi).

Best thing to do is just start it, let it warm up and drive it around the block every week. I don't know about other states but here in SA we have a 'extension' option on our historic rego which allows you to move the car within 500 meters without having to fill out your log book (i.e. if you are shifting cars in and out of your garage or have to park it on the street) - so a short drive around the block or up and down the street is all good.

A mini sitting for a long time is not good, in addition to the tyre problem you can have issues with brake cylinders seizing, oil seals drying out and any number of other issues. If possible try to drive it once a week or at very least once a fortnight to keep everything working smoothly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:58 pm 
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Sounds like moving it is the way to go. Otherwise Image.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:14 pm 
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Thanks for your comments and ideas.
The tyres are running about 30psi and I did think about raising this a bit.
The car was driven up the old pacific highway from Sydney to Gosford and a return blast down the Efing3 and I checked the tyres when I got home and they were still out of round.
Not that easy to get the car out of the garage more often due to lack of time. Too many projects and not enough time?..
I think I will try and push the car back and forwards every few weeks or even weekly and see if that makes a difference?
Obviously a work in progress

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:13 am 
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Hi Michael,
I experienced this many years ago when working with a Jaguar dealership and we had a number of then with flat spotted tyres when BRAND NEW causing this concern.
final fix was what you have done with a good freeway run getting the tyres as hot as possible, also had issues if the ambient temp was low when doing this, often had to wait for hot weather, but once we returned to the workshop we raised the vehicles on a hoist and raised tyre pressure to around 50 psi and left overnight to cool down and retest, it did not fix all tyres but most of them, if it did not work we replaced the tyres.
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michaelb wrote:
Thanks for your comments and ideas.
The tyres are running about 30psi and I did think about raising this a bit.
The car was driven up the old pacific highway from Sydney to Gosford and a return blast down the Efing3 and I checked the tyres when I got home and they were still out of round.
Not that easy to get the car out of the garage more often due to lack of time. Too many projects and not enough time?..
I think I will try and push the car back and forwards every few weeks or even weekly and see if that makes a difference?
Obviously a work in progress


To me, you have done everything you can apart from having tread skimmed to try an make them rounder...

I would ditch them...the belts may be damaged and the last thing you want is a catastrophic failure/blow-out at speed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:05 pm 
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I hope the belts aren't damaged...
My next plan is to take the car for a brisk drive in the Rylestone Classic. Hopefully this will sort out the issue? :shock: :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:11 am 
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Have you rotated them at all Michael , ie; front to rear? , to see if they are any better or worse , worth a try .


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Putting a teenager hat on. Try doing a few burnouts. :grin:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:47 pm 
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Yes I plan to rotate tyres front to back when I do an extensive service on the car before venturing out for the Rylestone. :)

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