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Can Body number and build numbers be out by 10 eg 511 difference as opposed to 501?
yes, it's rare for them to be exactly 500 different, almost a reason to be suspicious as it's "too perfect". Mine is 510 numbers different

Can engine number 558** be mid 1970?
my mk2 is 7/70 and engine number is 556**, 558** might be a little bit high, but the numbers weren't very linear

What would 06 mean above build number on firewall behind brake/clutch master cylinders? 06 is the body code for a Cooper S. I think the 06 was usually behind the paint code sticker

Did MK2 S's have PBR plastic Brake/clutch master cylinders? What if a car had 1 plastic and 1 tin looking one? there was a changeover period, and stocks of the tin tank were replaced with the plastic PBR. You also have 45 years of maintenance that might've meant they were changed. Mine are both PBR

Do MK2 S's have long switches either side of ignition? not long switches, they had the same switches as any other mini of the era. May have switch extensions

How does a repro MK 2 bonnet badge differ from original? repro badges are "flat" graphics on the back of the plastic, originals are moulded 3d in the back of the plastic and then coloured

1970minik wrote:

Can Body number and build numbers be out by 10 eg 511 difference as opposed to 501?
yes, it's rare for them to be exactly 500 different, almost a reason to be suspicious as it's "too perfect". Mine is 510 numbers different
My car is more than 50 out.

Can engine number 558** be mid 1970?
my mk2 is 7/70 and engine number is 556**, 558** might be a little bit high, but the numbers weren't very linear
I have one listed with 9FXEY55810

What would 06 mean above build number on firewall behind brake/clutch master cylinders? 06 is the body code for a Cooper S. I think the 06 was usually behind the paint code sticker
It should read 2/06 on the MK2 S

Did MK2 S's have PBR plastic Brake/clutch master cylinders? What if a car had 1 plastic and 1 tin looking one? there was a changeover period, and stocks of the tin tank were replaced with the plastic PBR. You also have 45 years of maintenance that might've meant they were changed. Mine are both PBR
I personally believe that the clutch master cyl would have been changed over first as they were the same on all cars and would have been using them up faster. The Cooper S brake master cylinder was different to other minis as it was taller. It may have taken a few months before they used up all the stock on the shelf. By 1970 they would have both been plastic.

simon k wrote:

1970minik wrote:

Can Body number and build numbers be out by 10 eg 511 difference as opposed to 501?
yes, it's rare for them to be exactly 500 different, almost a reason to be suspicious as it's "too perfect". Mine is 510 numbers different
My car is more than 50 out.

Can engine number 558** be mid 1970?
my mk2 is 7/70 and engine number is 556**, 558** might be a little bit high, but the numbers weren't very linear
I have one listed with 9FXEY55810

What would 06 mean above build number on firewall behind brake/clutch master cylinders? 06 is the body code for a Cooper S. I think the 06 was usually behind the paint code sticker
It should read 2/06 on the MK2 S

Did MK2 S's have PBR plastic Brake/clutch master cylinders? What if a car had 1 plastic and 1 tin looking one? there was a changeover period, and stocks of the tin tank were replaced with the plastic PBR. You also have 45 years of maintenance that might've meant they were changed. Mine are both PBR
I personally believe that the clutch master cyl would have been changed over first as they were the same on all cars and would have been using them up faster. The Cooper S brake master cylinder was different to other minis as it was taller. It may have taken a few months before they used up all the stock on the shelf. By 1970 they would have both been plastic.

Have you two got some 'mutual admiration society' thing going?

actually... they shouldn't be PBR plastic tank, they should be Lockheed plastic tank should they not?

when was the change from lockheed to PBR?

Author:	1970minik [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:	MK2 Cooper s Questions
Hi Just a few questions Can Body number and build numbers be out by 10 eg 511 difference as opposed to 501? Can engine number 558** be mid 1970? What would 06 mean above build number on firewall behind brake/clutch master cylinders? Did MK2 S's have PBR plastic Brake/clutch master cylinders? What if a car had 1 plastic and 1 tin looking one? Do MK2 S's have long switches either side of ignition? How does a repro MK 2 bonnet badge differ from original? Sorry if these questions have been asked before Kind Regards

Author:	simon k [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:04 pm ]
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1970minik wrote: Can Body number and build numbers be out by 10 eg 511 difference as opposed to 501? yes, it's rare for them to be exactly 500 different, almost a reason to be suspicious as it's "too perfect". Mine is 510 numbers different Can engine number 558 be mid 1970? my mk2 is 7/70 and engine number is 556, 558 might be a little bit high, but the numbers weren't very linear What would 06 mean above build number on firewall behind brake/clutch master cylinders? 06 is the body code for a Cooper S. I think the 06 was usually behind the paint code sticker Did MK2 S's have PBR plastic Brake/clutch master cylinders? What if a car had 1 plastic and 1 tin looking one? there was a changeover period, and stocks of the tin tank were replaced with the plastic PBR. You also have 45 years of maintenance that might've meant they were changed. Mine are both PBR Do MK2 S's have long switches either side of ignition? not long switches, they had the same switches as any other mini of the era. May have switch extensions How does a repro MK 2 bonnet badge differ from original? repro badges are "flat" graphics on the back of the plastic, originals are moulded 3d in the back of the plastic and then coloured**

Author:	gtogreen1969 [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:59 pm ]
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simon k wrote: 1970minik wrote: Can Body number and build numbers be out by 10 eg 511 difference as opposed to 501? yes, it's rare for them to be exactly 500 different, almost a reason to be suspicious as it's "too perfect". Mine is 510 numbers different My car is more than 50 out. Can engine number 558 be mid 1970? my mk2 is 7/70 and engine number is 556, 558 might be a little bit high, but the numbers weren't very linear I have one listed with 9FXEY55810 What would 06 mean above build number on firewall behind brake/clutch master cylinders? 06 is the body code for a Cooper S. I think the 06 was usually behind the paint code sticker It should read 2/06 on the MK2 S Did MK2 S's have PBR plastic Brake/clutch master cylinders? What if a car had 1 plastic and 1 tin looking one? there was a changeover period, and stocks of the tin tank were replaced with the plastic PBR. You also have 45 years of maintenance that might've meant they were changed. Mine are both PBR** I personally believe that the clutch master cyl would have been changed over first as they were the same on all cars and would have been using them up faster. The Cooper S brake master cylinder was different to other minis as it was taller. It may have taken a few months before they used up all the stock on the shelf. By 1970 they would have both been plastic.

Author:	simon k [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MK2 Cooper s Questions
gtogreen1969 wrote: simon k wrote: 1970minik wrote: Can Body number and build numbers be out by 10 eg 511 difference as opposed to 501? yes, it's rare for them to be exactly 500 different, almost a reason to be suspicious as it's "too perfect". Mine is 510 numbers different My car is more than 50 out. Can engine number 558 be mid 1970? my mk2 is 7/70 and engine number is 556, 558 might be a little bit high, but the numbers weren't very linear I have one listed with 9FXEY55810 What would 06 mean above build number on firewall behind brake/clutch master cylinders? 06 is the body code for a Cooper S. I think the 06 was usually behind the paint code sticker It should read 2/06 on the MK2 S Did MK2 S's have PBR plastic Brake/clutch master cylinders? What if a car had 1 plastic and 1 tin looking one? there was a changeover period, and stocks of the tin tank were replaced with the plastic PBR. You also have 45 years of maintenance that might've meant they were changed. Mine are both PBR** I personally believe that the clutch master cyl would have been changed over first as they were the same on all cars and would have been using them up faster. The Cooper S brake master cylinder was different to other minis as it was taller. It may have taken a few months before they used up all the stock on the shelf. By 1970 they would have both been plastic. I should have just left it for you to reply

Author:	gtogreen1969 [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MK2 Cooper s Questions
I was thinking of just quoting you with +1

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Author:	winabbey [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:49 pm ]
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Have you two got some 'mutual admiration society' thing going?

Author:	simon k [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:13 am ]
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winabbey wrote: Have you two got some 'mutual admiration society' thing going? jealous???

Author:	1970minik [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:41 am ]
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Thanks for the quick responses guys Very helpful

Author:	gtogreen1969 [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:28 pm ]
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Sorry that we got off topic a bit. We do that sometimes. Goodluck with the S.

Author:	Stibbsy [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MK2 Cooper s Questions
With regard to the different master cylinders, the'69 Mk 2 were different. Tin can brake and plastic clutch. That's the model with no compliance plate. Refer to "The Mini Experience" vol 14.

Author:	simon k [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MK2 Cooper s Questions
actually... they shouldn't be PBR plastic tank, they should be Lockheed plastic tank should they not? when was the change from lockheed to PBR?

Author:	Firefirey [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:53 am ]
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simon k wrote: actually... they shouldn't be PBR plastic tank, they should be Lockheed plastic tank should they not? when was the change from lockheed to PBR? Yes Simon I think you are right. Mine are lockheed and original to date. Have a set of nos PBR units but didn't put them on the Cooper S as I wanted to keep it original. The GT's had PBR from new? Pete

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