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Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
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Author:  CPOCSM [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
G'day all...

I am at wits end regarding the above item! I have no indicators, no horn, the wiring is a dogs breakfast and I can't for the life of me work out how to fix it.

What I need is a pic of a Leyland 1977 wiring layout of the stalk, plug and the plug into the main harness so I can cross reference it with my own. The wiring schematics are next to useless in the gregories and are different to what are on my stalk...bought new from a apparently reputable supplier in Sydney! Nothing matches what is on there nor does it match with the books. There are two brown wires, both running up the middle of the contact assembly and one has a black trace on it where the other is a solid brown. Which one is the ffffarking horn push button and which one plugs into where?

Horn especially giving me the shits as I have a new loom, a purple female plug and a purple with black trace in the engine bay. I can see purple wires on the switched side of my fuse block(turfed the original Lucas poop for a new blade one supplied when I had the loom made...classic looms in Melbourne)as well running into the car through the firewall. I have no idea where to plug the two purple wires into...I earthed out the horns on the front metal of the engine bay and it honks when I touch a wire from the horns positive to the purple female plug, but is continuous and not activated by the push button on the stalk.

I gave up on the indicators...changed bulbs with new correct ones, flasher, cleaned all the connections with circuit board cleaner and just felt like smashing my privates between two sharp rocks! The only things that are positive are the headlights working, interior lights, brake lights(but only when the headlights are on)but no stop brake lights when pedal is depressed.

I am at work now but will get some pics up of this nightmare when I get home.

Sorry for the vent...hot garage, hot soldering iron, one whopper blister on the meaty bit of my right palm, four or five books open at(apparently!!!)the same models of Leyland mini S...the GT wiring diagram makes mor sense than the others as it actually shows the ffffarking indicator stalk wiring...but oh no not gregories or any of the others...Grrr

Again apologies for the rant. Yes I have looked at the search returns including going right through all 196 pages of search returns for varying inputs of "indicator", "stalk", "horn" and "wire/ing".

Hooroo
Author:  keastmini [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
I have 77 harness at home I'll pull out and get a photo of for you
Author:  CPOCSM [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
Thanks cobber. As. Said I am at work so doing some meditation and breathing exercises before I come home at 2230 this evening.

Appreciate your efforts

Hooroo
Author:  keastmini [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
Don't have a stalk laying around to line it up with for you, but here are some shots. I assume this is the plug as it the line green wires link up to the flasher can. No brown wires here but there is a black and what looks like a black with a brown trace? Needs a bit of a clean up!
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Author:  keastmini [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
Worst case if I have a bit of time on the weekend I'll get the cover off the car and and look for yiu
Author:  goodie [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
I have an unmolested 77 van i can take a pic of the stalk area for you tomorrow Rob .
Author:  CPOCSM [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
You are the goods goodie. Mine is a 1977 S with the warning lights for brake fail and hand brake in the top dash rail. Anything would be better than the dogs breakfast I have at the moment.

Hooroo
Author:  Brik Nuts [ Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
Check the hazard light switch.......I had thisissue not long ago and the switch was the issue. The indicators go through this in the loom. My horn wasn't working either but somehow it works now. Goood luck
Author:  CPOCSM [ Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
Brik Nuts wrote:
Check the hazard light switch.......I had thisissue not long ago and the switch was the issue. The indicators go through this in the loom. My horn wasn't working either but somehow it works now. Goood luck


Thanks for that. May I ask here this mystical beast of a hazard light is? Is this the warning lights that have crumbled to dust on me that sit on the front dash? I bought the car in 2001 from a fellow who really stuffed up the wiring with rabbit runs everywhere.

Thanks again

Hooroo
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
No hazard lights on an Australian Mini.
Author:  CPOCSM [ Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
Thanks Morris...long time no see! I am just tracing the wires one by one and referencing the manuals. Figured if I can get it as per the book, theoretically, everything should work...

Morning coffee, popped the blister and will spend the day up in the garage seeing as the one that shall not be named, aka the wife, is at work.

Hooroo
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
I think the problem is some of the replacement switches don't use the standard colour codes.
All you can do is work it out wire by wire.
Author:  CPOCSM [ Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
Morris 1100 wrote:
I think the problem is some of the replacement switches don't use the standard colour codes.
All you can do is work it out wire by wire.

Thought as much. The loom from classic looms is period correct so will use the pics I have to swap and match from the stalk to the main harness. I don't even know where to start with the brake fail and hand brake dash lights...there are no wires on the new loom for them so will have to try and work out where they go next.

Relays are all wired but not connected and dreading cutting into the new loom for the high and low beams but has to be done I suppose. Think I will do the fuel pump run and call it a day.

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Spotlights on

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Hooroo

Image posts corrected by mod winabbey
Author:  CPOCSM [ Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
The offending stalk

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The other side.the black shrouded brown wire is in the middle of the assembly and has the wire mesh earthing sheath on it. The other brown wire is in the centre of the assembly and has a black trace.

Hooroo
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bloody Leyland Indicator Stalk!!!
CPOCSM wrote:
I don't even know where to start with the brake fail and hand brake dash lights...there are no wires on the new loom for them so will have to try and work out where they go next.

The brake fail and handbrake light wiring was a separate loom and not part of the original harness.
It is only a couple of wires, one from the fusebox to the lights and then a wire to each switch to turn them on. (by earthing to the body)
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