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Author:  d1ck0 [ Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Can you tell Rover details by VIN no?
Hi there,

May be looking at getting a late '90's Rover Mini soon and of course everyone advertises theirs as a Cooper. Can you tell the details from the VIN number? I know the Cooper should have either eater or 1/2 Leather interior but don't want to be caught out.

Cheers,

Dicko.
Author:  9YaTaH [ Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can you tell Rover details by VIN no?
These people have been in the import game for a few years...

Australian Mini Cooper
3 / 8 Ketch Close,
BERKELEY VALE, NSW, 2261
Tel: (02) 4388 9059
Fax: (02) 4388 4201
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.ozcooper.com.au
Author:  gtogreen1969 [ Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can you tell Rover details by VIN no?
This one lists the late model Mini Cooper as starting with XN-CA
http://www.somerfordmini.co.uk/eshop/in ... age&id=123
Author:  d1ck0 [ Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can you tell Rover details by VIN no?
9YaTaH wrote:
These people have been in the import game for a few years...

Australian Mini Cooper
3 / 8 Ketch Close,
BERKELEY VALE, NSW, 2261
Tel: (02) 4388 9059
Fax: (02) 4388 4201
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.ozcooper.com.au


Last time I spoke to them they weren't importing anymore, just doing compliance. They may know the details of my original question though. I shall call them in the New Year once the silly season has past.
Author:  miniresto [ Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can you tell Rover details by VIN no?
Hi Dicko,

This may be of help;
First part is for 1985 - 1990 and the second part is for cars after 1990.

*************Nov 1985 to Circa 1990 – English Built***************88
VIN
Note that the VIN plate for these cars is likely marked, “Austin Rover Group LTD”

It is possible that the start date is really November 1984, not 1985 as stated in the factory microfiche.

The general format for the VIN for these cars is:

SAX-X-L2S1N20-XXX-A

VIN, First Three Positions (“SAX” in the above example)

This is the World Make Identifier.

SAX = MG-Rover

VIN, Fourth Position (“X” in the above example):

This is simply dismissed by the factory as “non significant”!

VIN, Fifth Position (“L” in the above example):

= Engine type

L = 998cc

VIN, Sixth (and Seventh) Position (“2S” in the above example):

= Body type

2S = 2-door saloon/sedan. Caution: bureaucratic bungles often interpret this as 25 (twenty-five)

VIN, Eighth Position (“1” in the above example):

= Series of body

1 = Round nose, traditional Mini body style.

VIN, Ninth Position (“N” in the above example):

= Class

N = HLE, Mayfair (RHD)
O = E, City E
S = Mayfair (LHD)

VIN, Tenth Position (“2” in the above example):

= Model year

2 = 1984 on (This conflicts with the microfiche indicating this position was used starting in November 1985.)

VIN, Eleventh Position (“0” in the above example):

= Steering

0 = RHD
1 = LHD

VIN, Number positions (“###” in the above example):

= The sequential build number:

Build numbers are not listed. It is suspected that they carry on with the numbers from the previous series of cars; i.e., numbers were not started from 101, again.

VIN, Last position (“A” in the above example):

= Assembly plant. Officially, “Internal Use Only”

If used at all, this would be “A” for English built cars.

A = Longbridge


*************1990 XN-----010001 On (1300cc cars only) – English Built *******************

VIN

The general format for the VIN for these cars is:

SAX-XN-N-A-Y-B-B-D-######

VIN, First Three Positions (“SAX” in the above example)

= World Make Identifier.

SAX = MG-Rover

VIN, Fourth and Fifth Positions (“XN” in the above example):

XN = Mini 1300

VIN, Sixth Position (“N” in the above example):

= Class

N = Sport, Cooper, Cabriolet
V = Kensington
W = HLS, Mayfair
Y = City, Sprite

VIN, Seventh Position (“A” in the above example):

= Body type

A = 2-door saloon/sedan.
B = Cabriolet

VIN, Eighth Position (“Y” in the above example):

= Engine

D = 1300 Carb
M = 1300 Carb
X = 1300 SPi (standard compression ratio, 9.4:1)
Y = 1300 SPi (high compression ratio, 10.1:1)
Z = 1300 MPi (high compression ratio, 10.1:1)

VIN, Ninth Position (“B” in the above example):

= RHD/LHD, Transmission type, Final Drive

B = RHD, Manual, 3.105
C = RHD, Manual, 3.21
E = RHD, Manual, 2.76
K = RHD, Automatic
M = LHD, Manual, 3.105
N = LHD, Manual, 3.21
R = LHD, Manual, 2.76
Y = LHD, Automatic

VIN, Tenth Position (“B” in the above example):

= Model Change

A = 1300 Special Edition
B = 1300

VIN, Eleventh Position (“D” in the above example):

= Assembly Plant

D = Longbridge

VIN, Number positions (“######” in the above example):

= The sequential build number:

Starting with 010001
Author:  J-Spec Imports [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can you tell Rover details by VIN no?
Hi Dicko,

We import Mk VII (late 1996+) Japanese Minis regularly, the easiest "at a glance" way to tell a late model Japanese Rover Mini is to look at the seats. Cloth seats with tartan pattern will mean it's a Mayfair, beige leather is a Kensington, black leather with black or blue dash (if blue body) is a Paul Smith, otherwise black or green leather should be a Cooper. The only tricky one is a 40th Anniversary non Cooper. This will have leather interior and aluminium dash but is a non Cooper if it doesn't have the fender flares/13" wheels. So, factory aluminium dash (fine checker pattern) but standard wheels and flares is a 40th Anniversary non Cooper.

Note: in the Mk VII Rover Minis the Cooper is basically just a minor trim change, mechanically they are all the same, and all have the same power output. The leather interior, some badging and other pretty minor cosmetic tweaks is all a Cooper really gets you.

Regards,

Ben
J-Spec Imports
www.j-spec.com.au
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