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| Author: | Tbags [ Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
Hi all, ill be going though the shed of parts again shortly to catalogue what is there but i would like this time to be more prepared. i tried searching but its quite difficult while driving around and on the run. i am sorry if i come off sounding gruff and short, i am not doing this for any personal gain, just trying to sort things out for a family who has lost a loved one, who had an extreme love for the classic mini. what i am looking are lists or directions to areas where i can find such information; i am looking for lists like; - List of what each engine prefix - List describing what each engine was fitted too - List of era the engine is from - List of Head castings - Cam's (numbers and what they were fitted too) - Crank's (Numbers and what they were fitted too) - List of each Gearbox casting - Ways to ID each gearbox from standard units (there are many box's seperated from blocks and if possible, would like to reuinte the box to an engine, would hate to see an 850 box on a 1275 engine) - Locations of where to I.D. parts if anyone would be able to help me it would be very appreciated Thank you for your time Tezza |
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
Gearbox ID's http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.uk/gearboxes.pdf Engine ID's https://www.minispares.com/catalogues/c ... px?1~1~102 Head ID's http://www.minimania.com/Cylinder_head_ ... ing_number Some dates and vehicle usage change for Australian cars. People usually put there numbers up and then others reply to the post. I usually just search google using the numbers. |
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
22G1128 4 Speed / 4 Syncro / Remote shift are hand stamped with the following codes Mini K = #### or ##### or 5/##### or Nothing MK2 S = FAXE #### or Nothing Clubman = 22/#### Export Moke = 30/#### MK2 Cooper S laygear and first motion shaft are different to the Mini K. The MK2 S laygear is 22G1040. The MK2 S first motion shaft has 18 teeth. Mini K first motion shaft has 17 teeth. The MK2 S first motion shaft also has a "S" stamped into the spigot bearing end of the shaft but can't be seen while the box is assembled. 22G333 4 speed / 3 syncro / B type Remote shift 3 versions of the 22G333 casing. 22G333 X was for the later 970S and does not have the small cut out for crankshaft clearance in the front / radiator corner. Rubber Joints and 3.76 diff 22G333 Y was for very early 1275S's Rubber uni’s up to 9FSAY41233 and 3.44 diff 22G333 Q was the later casing used on most 1275S's Hardy Spicers from 9FSAY41234 and 3.44 diff Stamped Code 9FA 12345 is for the 970S , 12FA 12345 is for the 1275S Laygear 22G232 |
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| Author: | John Sneddon [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
All of the requested data is contained in my upcoming book which I hope to have published shortly. |
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| Author: | Tbags [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
Thankyou gtogreen1969, that info will give the printer a workout John I am extremely interested in purchasing any publishing that goes into that amount of detail. But i require this information this weekend so what i can get my hands on will do |
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| Author: | timmy201 [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
If you are lucky the engine blocks will have the tag saying 850, 1000, 1100, 1275 on the rear near the fuel pump. Engine numbers (including Aussie cars) which are stamped near #1 sparkplug: http://www.mini.org.au/mini_identification.html Engine casting number which are cast on the rear of the block: http://minispares.com/catalogues/classi ... px?1~1~234 Crankshafts: http://www.minispares.com/catalogues/cl ... aspx?1~1~5 Camshafts can be hard to identify, as they aren't all stamped with part numbers. Gearbox casting numbers (blue) and identifying stamp (yellow) Attachment: IMG_4686.JPG A remote gearbox is on the left, 850 is on the right. Also circled is the casting number (green) and the tag (blue) Attachment: $_57 (12).JPG This is the rod change gearbox (22G1832), they have a round diff cover Attachment: $_57 (13).JPG
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
Thanks for this. I was in the middle of adding some of these extra details but your reply is heaps better than mine |
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| Author: | TK [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
This is the rod change gearbox (22G1832), they have a round diff cover should have pot joints not rubber unis as shown in the photo. |
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
Make sure you don't just go off the engine number stampings for Identification. Many engines have been restamped and some cooper s numbers have also found their way onto an 1100S block. The casting number "AEG312" is a MK1 S 1275 9FSAY engine. It also has a thin flange where it bolts to the gearbox and rear tappet chest covers.  The casting number "AEG312 / AEG634 is a MK2 S or early Clubman GT 1275 9FXEY engine. It has a thick flange where it bolts to the gearbox and rear tappet chest covers. 
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
Here is a cylinder head guide if you can't find any markings on a head or if your markings don't come up on a search. You will notice the position of the heater tap and thermostat studs change from small bore to big bore. 
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| Author: | miniron [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
Not all thick flange blocks have both the AEG 312 and AEG 634 part nos on them. I have a MK2 S thick flange block with the 9FXEY engine prefix that only has AEG 312 cast into it. It seems that all S blocks, either thin or thick flange, used the same AEG 312 number. I saw a block at Link several years ago that had both numbers cast into it but it had never been used. It was thought to be a "spare part" block. IIRC it was painted black. The pic of the block with both numbers doesn't appear to have been used either and it doesn't have the hole for the push rivet that attaches the 1275 tag. RonR |
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| Author: | cooperess [ Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
gtogreen1969 mentioned this above:- "22G1128 4 Speed / 4 Syncro / Remote shift are hand stamped with the following codes Mini K = #### or ##### or 5/##### or Nothing MK2 S = FAXE #### or Nothing" May I ask what is the physical difference apart from these hand stamped numbers? |
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
cooperess wrote: gtogreen1969 mentioned this above:- "22G1128 4 Speed / 4 Syncro / Remote shift are hand stamped with the following codes Mini K = #### or ##### or 5/##### or Nothing MK2 S = FAXE #### or Nothing" May I ask what is the physical difference apart from these hand stamped numbers? Externally the K and S and GT and Clubman used the same remote 22G1128 box however the Internals were different. The poverty pack sedan, van and moke also used the same box but had a centre change. Diffs and UJ"S changed a bit between models as well |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
There was also a 22G846 casing which appears identical to the 22G1128. The one I worked on had the centre shift aka puddin stirrer so would have been pov pack, van or moke. |
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| Author: | cooperess [ Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Engine, Gearbox, Crankshaft I.D. Charts ? |
gtogreen1969 wrote: cooperess wrote: gtogreen1969 mentioned this above:- "22G1128 4 Speed / 4 Syncro / Remote shift are hand stamped with the following codes Mini K = #### or ##### or 5/##### or Nothing MK2 S = FAXE #### or Nothing" May I ask what is the physical difference apart from these hand stamped numbers? Externally the K and S and GT and Clubman used the same remote 22G1128 box however the Internals were different. The poverty pack sedan, van and moke also used the same box but had a centre change. Diffs and UJ"S changed a bit between models as well When you say the internals were different, do you mean the gears or the physical casting? |
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