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| Author: | timmy201 [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
This is a van my grandfather did in the mid 60's. He was very good friends with the local BMC dealer and would collect cars from the factory and drive them back to the dealership. It's quite possible this was a brand new car modified before sale... Unfortunately I didn't find out about this mini (possibly there were more) until after he had passed, but it was great mum was able to find a couple of photos recently. It's a smooth roof with sliding window so it must be an early car? From the front you can see the "woody" side panelling and chrome strips, and also the new rear seat. Attachment: IMG_2932 - Copy.jpeg At the rear you can see the interior panelling and a relocated spare tyre? The speedo is a black one? Attachment: IMG_2930-Copy.jpeg
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| Author: | slide [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
Fascinating! I wonder if it is still around? Those rear seat conversions were terrific, so long as you had rear side windows in your van, otherwise it may have been a bit claustrophobic in there. I'd love to put a rear seat in my van but finding one nowadays in Oz would be very hard. |
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| Author: | Babes [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
I have a traveller rear seat for sale but freight from WA would be pricey |
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| Author: | flapper [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
slide wrote: Fascinating! I wonder if it is still around? Those rear seat conversions were terrific, so long as you had rear side windows in your van, otherwise it may have been a bit claustrophobic in there. I'd love to put a rear seat in my van but finding one nowadays in Oz would be very hard. We have this Van. If it is any help we could take measurement for you  
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| Author: | 1071 S [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
A rear seat would not be hard to fabricate.. its just two slabs of ply, two rectangles of foam and vinyl covering and some simple gate hinges and sliding bolts. If I was going to do one I would measure the hole rather than use the dimensions of a real set-up. The reason being that the hard part would be modifying the metal body work to allow the necessary room and making up brackets to support the backrest... Cheers, Ian |
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| Author: | DavidE [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
timmy201 wrote: This is a van my grandfather did in the mid 60's. He was very good friends with the local BMC dealer and would collect cars from the factory and drive them back to the dealership. It's quite possible this was a brand new car modified before sale... Unfortunately I didn't find out about this mini (possibly there were more) until after he had passed, but it was great mum was able to find a couple of photos recently. It's a smooth roof with sliding window so it must be an early car? From the front you can see the "woody" side panelling and chrome strips, and also the new rear seat. Thumbs up (both of them)!! |
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| Author: | fuzzy-hair-man [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
1071 S wrote: A rear seat would not be hard to fabricate.. its just two slabs of ply, two rectangles of foam and vinyl covering and some simple gate hinges and sliding bolts. If I was going to do one I would measure the hole rather than use the dimensions of a real set-up. The reason being that the hard part would be modifying the metal body work to allow the necessary room and making up brackets to support the backrest... Cheers, Ian In the interests of full disclosure etc blah blah the setup you are talking about should be engineered by law and would also require seat belts. |
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| Author: | Besser [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
A van or truck dual dickeyseat would fit and include belt anchorages. I know because that's what I've done. Only thing is they're damm heavy. |
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| Author: | fuzzy-hair-man [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
Besser wrote: A van or truck dual dickey seat would fit and include belt anchorages. I know because that's what I've done. Only thing is they're damm heavy. I had to engineer my front seat anchorages even though;
For your suggestion I'd guess the engineer may be a little nervous because
Engineer's vary in their tolerances / conservatism etc so others may vary... |
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| Author: | 1071 S [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
fuzzy-hair-man wrote: 1071 S wrote: A rear seat would not be hard to fabricate.. its just two slabs of ply, two rectangles of foam and vinyl covering and some simple gate hinges and sliding bolts. If I was going to do one I would measure the hole rather than use the dimensions of a real set-up. The reason being that the hard part would be modifying the metal body work to allow the necessary room and making up brackets to support the backrest... Cheers, Ian In the interests of full disclosure etc blah blah the setup you are talking about should be engineered by law and would also require seat belts. I was describing the factory set up used in the Traveller/Countryman. Couldn't comment on the compliance specialist's view when you pointed out that your solution replicated the factory design... Cheers, Ian |
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| Author: | Timbo [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
fuzzy-hair-man wrote: ...(ie can you copy mounts from an estate van that had seat belts that comply)... Not really, unfortunately no estate ever went into production with rear lap/sash seatbelts. In the UK rear belts weren't a requirement until after the estate went out of production. The only estates that had rear lap/sash seatbelts from the factory were the two prototype Clubman estates made in Australia. One is still around. My reading is that you probably can't get rear seat belts to comply (for kids) without significant structural modifications (e.g. a CRAB bar across the back). You won't get a wooden framed seat complied either, although you could build one with a steel frame that would look the same. Tim |
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| Author: | timmy201 [ Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
A bit of a resurrection here... Mum found a few more photos of the van Attachment: IMG_2267 - Copy.jpeg Attachment: IMG_2266 - Copy.jpeg There was also an article from the local paper (Feb 1966) about the "Morris 850 Station Wagon" conversion that was done by the local BMC garage. I'm yet to find out what involvement my grandfather had in the modifications. There is a list of the modifications: Rear seat from an Austin A40 Inner wood trim panelling Two tone paint with chrome trim (not wood as we thought earlier) Relocated spare tyre Relocated battery to engine bay using a Morris 1100 carrier Rear windows Mud flaps Optional roof rack You can click to enlarge these: |
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| Author: | 9YaTaH [ Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
Brilliant piece of history...and it would have been great for the Addison's to be reunited with the car once again at their Garage  Sorry for my ignorance...but is the fella who moved down to the Monaro from Addison's still with us? EDIT: Mr A no longer with us...would Wyn be interested in seeing the car again? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95939&p=1024951&hilit=Addison#p1024951 |
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| Author: | timmy201 [ Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
A little update from 2024: In reply to 9YaTaH: I did contact Wyn back in 2018 and she told me that this mini had been her mums car. At the time she didn’t want anyone to know about it as they still had it. It had been driven up until the 70’s and had been painted red & must have had windup windows installed too Fast forward to 2024 and she'd decided it was time the mini could go. I’d often thought it would be nice to have the van as my grandad had done some work on it, and I’d also worked at the petrol station with Mr Addison and our families had known each other for a long time. So when I saw the add up with the van I thought I should go and have a look I asked my uncle if he could remember the van and apparently they converted 2 vans into station wagons, and my grandad did the wood paneling in the boot. A reminder of how it looked new: Attachment: IMG_2930.jpeg I went to look at the van and see if it was the same one. The spare tyre carrier is still there on the back left door Attachment: IMG_2315.jpeg Some of the wood paneling and the rear seat are still there Attachment: IMG_2286.jpeg Attachment: IMG_2301.jpeg My favourite part is the dealer decal, which I will attempt to scan in high quality so we can get some reproductions done. Any suggestions on someone who can do this will be appreciated Attachment: IMG_2258.jpeg Unfortunately the van hasn’t survived well being outside. I believe from the build plate it’s an early 1965 and came in Astro grey originally. There’s no floor left and probably not one useable panel, so it will likely end up as a garage ornament or more likely I’ll strip the parts and a few panels and the rest will go to scrap. Attachment: IMG_2309.jpeg
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| Author: | Steam [ Mon Dec 02, 2024 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Coachbuilt" Morris 850 Van |
Did you get the Van Tim, I know there was a flurry of of interest on Faceache for it. It would be great if you did and the 2 can be stabled together. |
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