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Author:  zulu_warrior1976 [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Starter motor

Hey all,
Dos some work on he mini on the weekend. The flares on the rear were cracked. Took off the strip to remove the flares and they just fell to bits! Wanted to show some photos but the old iPhone is full and won't let me do anything.

Anyway, wanted to say that my starter motor keeps throwing out of engagement.
Is this normal?
Does it need a rebuild?
Has anyone experiences this?

Zulu

Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

Maybe you have too much advance? Starter kicking out is a 'feature' of the old Lucas starter, one reason some folks fit a pre-engaged Gemini one or similar.

Author:  9YaTaH [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

What the Doc said...and add that the Bendix Gear/Ring Gear may be so worn it refuses to stay engaged...

Author:  zulu_warrior1976 [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

Want to keep the motor original mk1. Best to get it rebuilt?

Author:  9YaTaH [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

zulu_warrior1976 wrote:
Want to keep the motor original mk1. Best to get it rebuilt?


No...not just to fix a ring gear or bendix gear...both can be done without major surgery :idea: :D

[caveat: assuming compression is good and it runs fine]

Author:  zulu_warrior1976 [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

Motor runs sweet and compression is fine. It's a pig of a thing to start though. Always needs "start ya b*stard" to get it fired up!

Author:  zulu_warrior1976 [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

So, whip the starter off and get it refurbished?

Author:  9YaTaH [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

zulu_warrior1976 wrote:
So, whip the starter off and get it refurbished?


No...whip the starter off and inspect the bendix gear for wear...get a torch out an look at the ring gear through the orifice left by the starter...rotate the engine by hand to check all the way around...use your finger to check for wear on teeth etc

But watch out for those fingers!! :idea:

Author:  9YaTaH [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

zulu_warrior1976 wrote:
Motor runs sweet and compression is fine. It's a pig of a thing to start though. Always needs "start ya b*stard" to get it fired up!


Should not need SYB each time...you have other Electrical/Fuel issue(s)...

What fuel you using?

Author:  zulu_warrior1976 [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

98 ulp

Author:  simon k [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

zulu_warrior1976 wrote:
98 ulp


the choke linkage set up properly and actually doing something?

Author:  1071 S [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

Sounds more like timing to me ..BTDT... I have an 8lb flywheel with almost no teeth which was a real pain ..until the local guru gave it a tweak..

With everything in tune a Mini will kick off on virtually the first flick of the key.

Properly set up it will need an initial dose of choke.

Cheers, Ian

Author:  zulu_warrior1976 [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

Haven't been giving it choke. I used to and it would flood too easily.

Author:  Convertible Mini [ Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

Check the ignition timing. Starter throws out and disengages as soon as engine shows any sign of firing. Being normal. I don't think you have a starter issue at all. Starter is doing what it is told.

Author:  zulu_warrior1976 [ Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Starter motor

Hmm, so a tune required then? Seems to run ok when it has started.
I'll check out the starter motor but I agree that it seems to be doing what it needs to do.
I may need to try just a touch of choke too rather than none.

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