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Author:  glenndunn [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Front Wheel Bearings

I have a noisy wheel bearing so time to replace, can anyone tell me the best type to use I have a Cooper S

Author:  timmy201 [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Timken tapered ones. Not the cheapest, but they are the best.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

I have used aftermarket ones recently, they fit fine but I found spacers not quite right. One was .005" too thin and the other .006" too thick. Luckily I have a spacer collection, and a lathe.

Author:  glenndunn [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Is there a " How To " for wheels bearing just had a look and could not see one, can someone tell me if its worth doing yourself or should I take to workshop and get charged $100 an hour

Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

glenndunn wrote:
Is there a " How To " for wheels bearing just had a look and could not see one, can someone tell me if its worth doing yourself or should I take to workshop and get charged $100 an hour

Look in the how-to forum, I wrote one up.

Here- viewtopic.php?f=25&t=40640

Author:  69k1100 [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Pretty significant variances? And how do you turn them one the lathe? I thought they would be hardened?

Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

The spacers are all soft. Both Timken and aftermarket.
I was more surprised that one kit had a spacer .010" thicker than the other kit. Shows thickness variance between bearings.
I have a Myford bench lathe it's ideal for this work.

Genuine Timken bearing kits have a correct spacer always, provided the centre web in the hub is not worn. They are worth the extra $$.

Author:  69k1100 [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Pretty impressive the hubs were held in such high tolerance (1thou) in the 1960's. For those playing at home that's 0.0254mm. Not bad, you'd need a surface plate to measure the thickness of the spacer.

I thought I was being mad but I've held on to my spacers, but ditched the old bearings. Might come in handy.

Author:  gtogreen1969 [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

The last set I replaced I took 4-5 thou off the spacers using sand paper.
Just place the sandpaper on a flat surface and rub them in a figure 8 and circular pattern.
Use a micrometer every 1 thou to check it is coming off evenly.
Took about 5 minutes each.

Author:  glenndunn [ Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Sounds like they can be lots of trouble I'm pretty handy can I change them myself or is it to hard, also what special tools are required ?

Author:  Mick [ Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Simple tools are enough. You will need a large socket to take off the CV nut, and a ball joint splitter. Each can be had from supercheap easily enough. Also a couple of decent drifts if you don't have access to a bearing press. They tap into the hub quite easily.

Author:  glenndunn [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Can it be done with the hub in or does it have to come out ?

Author:  drmini in aust [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Has to come off the car. CV and driveshaft can stay.
I made a plate that bolts to the wheel studs, it has a 1" thick steel handle. I hold this in the vice for assembly. Also very handy for doing balljoints...
The spare holes were for other applications... :)
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Author:  Minicooper4me [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

drmini in aust wrote:
The spacers are all soft. Both Timken and aftermarket.
I was more surprised that one kit had a spacer .010" thicker than the other kit. Shows thickness variance between bearings.
I have a Myford bench lathe it's ideal for this work.

Genuine Timken bearing kits have a correct spacer always, provided the centre web in the hub is not worn. They are worth the extra $$.


Please excuse me for hijacking this topic but I feel it is relevant.

Hey Doc, just a side issue. The spacer you refer to, is this the springy one that goes in before installing the inner bearing. It is about 5 mm thick, open at one end, springy like, with the inner cone up against it, not the other smaller spacer between the 2 bearings.

Thanks.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Front Wheel Bearings

Nope that's just an inner seal spacer. Not needed as long as you don't push seal too far in.
Tapered roller front bearings, both Timken and copies have a steel tube spacer IN the kit. This goes between the bearings. It is selected to give the right preload with a NEW hub. But problems can arise with 50 year old hubs if the bearings have ever spun and worn the centre web.

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