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 Post subject: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:23 am 
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Hi everyone,

Considering a thermo fan, now that it's coming into summer - what is the best one to buy? It would be going into a deluxe, are they any available that don't require any mods really?

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:48 am 
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This one looks to fit really well James:
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A Spal 10" low profile puller fan fits perfectly height and width wise (no I mean it I doubt it could fit any better) between the radiator and the guard on mine.
http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/topic/253043-spot-the-micra-mini/?p=3019396

Keeps the CG13DE cool when the ECU eventually turns in on...


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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:02 am 
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Don't know why you would ever need one if your standard cooling system is in good shape...

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:05 am 
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deluxe67 wrote:
Don't know why you would ever need one if your standard cooling system is in good shape...

I agree. Just something else to go wrong. I'd sooner add a heater core as aux rad. :wink: KISS.

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:15 am 
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Hi Jp,

I wrote this on another forum last week..

"Hi On the road,

I have a fairly seriously souped up 1293 Mini I drove in Indonesia (hot tropical weather!) for a year. Cooling system is stock standard (except alloy radiator which I don't think is any more efficient than the standard one?) and the temperature gauge never got to halfway even in gridlocked traffic (normal in Bali!).
So, in my experience, a properly set up standard cooling system is all you need. Sort that out and toss the other stuff."

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:33 am 
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Thanks guys,

Well I'm not sure, I've pulled everything down over the past few days - head off, (head gasket fine), water pump in good nic, and high flow type, fan in good shape (right way around), radiator looks clean.

Even in winter, you would pull up and idle for a few mins, temp would climb almost straight away (checked also with infrared)

Also did this with properly tuned SU's, and a weber , so not a mixture issue.

I'm just stumped, thought a thermo fan couldn't hurt... they're pretty widely used.

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:52 am 
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jp,

Something is not right. What's the thermostat doing? You could trying running the car without a thermostat (should run cool) and see what happens while you test the thermostat (boil it up in a pot of water) itself to see if it's opening at the rated temp using your infrared gizzmo?
My feeling is that a thermo fan may reduce the symptoms but not solve an underlying problem with the cooling system..

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:51 pm 
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deluxe67 wrote:
jp,

Something is not right. What's the thermostat doing? You could trying running the car without a thermostat (should run cool) and see what happens while you test the thermostat (boil it up in a pot of water) itself to see if it's opening at the rated temp using your infrared gizzmo?
My feeling is that a thermo fan may reduce the symptoms but not solve an underlying problem with the cooling system..


Thermostat is definitely OK. I had already tried the 'put in hot water' test. Thermostat begins to open @ 65deg and fully opened by 75 which it is rated for.

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:04 pm 
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I'm out of ideas! Doc, where are you?!

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deluxe67 wrote:
I'm out of ideas! Doc, where are you?!

I'm with you. My gauge sits in the middle in traffic on a hot day (stock Oz 3 core rad + matic heater).

I have the head off it here and the gasket is fine. I suspect his alloy radiator may be part blocked (as they do).
JP has a super 2 core, I suggest he fits that.

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:45 pm 
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Could it be running too retarded, would that do it?

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RH tank cos I needed it crossing the Nullarbor etc..


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:54 pm 
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I checked that last time he drove up here. Modified curve Pulsar dizzy with 30deg total advance @ 3500. It's fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:12 pm 
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Does it have a bypass hose?

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
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Yes, it has a bypass hose (made it hard to get the head off without undoing it first :lol: )

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 Post subject: Re: Thermo Fans
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The only thing I can think of is that the radiator is partly blocked - being alloy I've no way of really checking.

Will fit the super 2 core I have when I get the head back!

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